Neither of them should have been punished? The joke is that America lost its goddamnmotherfucking mind over this. America is the joke.
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Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de 9 hours ago
Can we not make joke about Monica? She got horribly treated by the public while he is the only one who should have been punished.
She is fighting bullying and she is pretty cool for that.
Canconda@lemmy.ca 9 hours ago
tmyakal@infosec.pub 8 hours ago
Neither of them should’ve been punished? He was her boss, and decades older than her. He should’ve kept his pants zipped up.
AWistfulNihilist@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
DNC types get super cagey when you admit that Bill Clinton is a serial adulterer who was in an extreme power imbalance relationship with a woman in her 20’s.
I’m glad the party is willingly offering him up as a sacrifice to the republicans to get keep the Epstein probe going. Every time the GOP tries a burying tactic, they truss Bill up like a suckling pig, and I’m fine with that. Dude is and was a creep.
Canconda@lemmy.ca 8 hours ago
Yea it’s called consent. Not every power imbalance is inherently coercive. Society should be punished for being such prudes… they’d probably find they like it.
OneOrTheOtherDontAskMe@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
Not every power imbalance is coercive, but the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES TALKING TO A 21 YEAR OLD STAFFER IS
In case you didn’t consider that one
Gross, dude
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 6 hours ago
Remember Gary Hart? He had to drop out of politics because of a rumor of an affair.
Meanwhile… Margaret Trudeau is doing blow with the Rolling Stones at Studio 52.
Canconda@lemmy.ca 5 hours ago
Yea cuz the majority of Canadians aren’t fucking prudes lmao.
forkDestroyer@infosec.pub 2 hours ago
I think it’s alright to hold both of them accountable for infidelity in a social sense. Clinton being the more responsible as the man in the marriage, but Monica knew he was married. I can’t see a moral argument to not hold her accountable for this as well (again, socially, not legally). They were both adults. I don’t think the age difference or power dynamic lets either of them off of the hook, even though it would make the then-President comparatively more in the wrong.
I think it’s more alright to have punished Clinton for lying (under oath, right?). Even if I don’t think it made sense to ask him about sexual relations, he still lied about it. I don’t think there’s any legal issue with what Monica did.
I’m glad she’s speaking up against bullying nowadays.
I didn’t follow each update on this situation while it was going on, so if you think I missed an important point that would change my mind, I’m open to considering it.
Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de 2 hours ago
You are missing the point where a man with the most powerful position on the planet, more than twice the woman’s age, made her feel special by the attention that he gave her at 22 years of age. The human brain is not fully matured until at least 25.
Having that big of a power difference and age difference is huge.
And you missed the point where he broke his promise to his wife and she broke no promise. You don’t know what bill told her what his deal with Hillary was. So why judge her for a crime that she didn’t commit?
NewPerspective@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
This guy’s sexist af, don’t expect better
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 5 hours ago
Monica got the worst part of it all.
RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 3 hours ago
The penis…?
SethTaylor@lemmy.world 16 minutes ago
You. Principle’s office. Now
bus_factor@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
Technically a cigar, IIRC.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 5 hours ago
Why should he be punished? Nothing either one of them did was illegal. It was consensual private behavior that none of us should ever have heard about.
Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de 5 hours ago
He was her boss and the president of the usa… considering her age too… questionable behaviour
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 5 hours ago
So the American public has the right to know about the president’s every sexual experience?
Frankly, I don’t want to know. Especially with a pervy pedophile like Trump.
Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de 5 hours ago
Wtf??? Where did you read that?
Berengaria_of_Navarre@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
They did.
Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de 5 hours ago
Compared to her? Not at all.
buddascrayon@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
Yeah, it took me a second to realize this was another juvenile joke at her expense to make fun of Bill Clinton who has committed a whole series of much worse offenses you can take aim at without involving a woman who already got the sharp end of the media stick for far too long.