Comment on Codeberg: army of AI crawlers are extremely slowing us; AI crawlers learned how to solve the Anubis challenges.

• polle@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  The saddest part is, we thought crypto was the biggest waste of energy ever and then the LLMs entered the chat.

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  • 1rre@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    At least LLMs produce something, even if it’s slop, all crypto does is… What does crypto even do again?

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    • Honytawk@feddit.nl ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It gives people with already too much money a way to invest by gambling without actually helping society.

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      • baguettefish@discuss.tchncs.de [bot] ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        for the biggest crypto investors it isn’t even really gambling. they use celebrities to hype a memecoin and then rug pull and split the profits harvested from the celebrity’s fans.

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    • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Monero allows you to make untraceable transactions. That can be useful.

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      • 1rre@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Sure, Monero is good for privacy-focused applications, but it’s a fraction of the market and the larger coins aren’t particularly any less tracable than virtual temporary payment cards, so Monero (and other privacy-centric coins) get overshadowed by the garbage coins.

        Same with AI, where non-LLM models are having a huge impact in medicine, chemistry, space exploration and more, but because tech bros are shouting about the objectively less useful ones, it brings down the reputation of the entire industry.

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    • xiwi@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Crypto does drug sales and fraud!

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      • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        It also makes it’s fans poorer, which at least is funny, especially since they never learn

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    • SeptugenarianSenate@leminal.space ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Blockchain m8 gg

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  • raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    ouch. I never made that comparison, but that is on point.

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• kameecoding@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Bro couldn’t even bring himself to mention protein folding because that’s too socialist I guess.

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  • andallthat@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    LLMs can’t do protein folding. A specifically-trained Machine Learning model called AlphaFold did. Here’s the paper.

    Developing, training and fine tuning that model was a research effort led by two guys who got a Nobel for it. Alphafold can’t do conversation or give you hummus recipes, it knows shit about the structure of human language but can identify pattern in the domain where it has been specifically and painstakingly trained.

    It wasn’t “hey chatGPT, show me how to fold a protein” is all I’m saying and the “superhuman reasoning capabilities” of current LLMs are still falling ridiculously short of even sinpler problems.

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    • mobotsar@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Crawlers aren’t LLMs; they can do arbitrary computations (whatever the target demands to access resources).

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    • patatahooligan@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The crawlers for LLM are not themselves LLMs.

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    • kameecoding@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      They can’t bitcoin mine either, so technical feasibility wasn’t the goal of my reply

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  • NeilBru@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Hey dipshits:

    The number of mouth-breathers who think every fucking “AI” is a fucking LLM is too damn high.

    • Every artificial intelligence is not a deep neural network algorithm.
    • Every deep neural network algorithm is not a generative adversarial network.
    • Every generative adversarial network is not a language model.
    • Every language model is not a large language model.

    Fucking fart-sniffing twats.

    $ . /end-rant.sh

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  • londos@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    You’re 100% right. I just grasped at the first example I could think of where the crawlers could do free work. Yours is Mich better. Left is best.

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• londos@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I went back and added “malicious” because I knew it wasn’t useful in reality. I just wanted to express the AI crawlers doing free work. But you’re right, bitcoin sucks.

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  • raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    To be fair: it’s a great tool for scamming people (think ransomware) :/

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    • DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Great for money laundering.

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      • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Is it? Don’t you risk losing a rather large percentage of the value.

        Just by cars or something as they are much better at keeping their value. Also if somebody asks where did you get all this money from you can just point to the car and say, I sold that.

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