Not without making real users also mine bitcoin/avoiding the site because their performance tanked.
londos@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Can there be a challenge that actually does some maliciously useful compute? Like make their crawlers mine bitcoin or something.
T156@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
nymnympseudonym@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
The Monero community spent a long time trying to find a “useful PoW” function. The problem is that most computations that are useful are not also easy to verify as correct. javascript optimization was one direction that got pursued pretty far.
But at the end of the day, a crypto that actually intends to withstand attacks from major governments requires a system that is decentralized, trustless, and verifiable, and the only solutions that have been found to date involve algorithms for which a GPU or even custom ASIC confers no significant advantage over a consumer-grade CPU.
0x0@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Did you just say use the words “useful” and “bitcoin” in the same sentence? o_O
polle@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
The saddest part is, we thought crypto was the biggest waste of energy ever and then the LLMs entered the chat.
1rre@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
At least LLMs produce something, even if it’s slop, all crypto does is… What does crypto even do again?
Honytawk@feddit.nl 3 weeks ago
It gives people with already too much money a way to invest by gambling without actually helping society.
xiwi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Crypto does drug sales and fraud!
SeptugenarianSenate@leminal.space 3 weeks ago
Blockchain m8 gg
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
Monero allows you to make untraceable transactions. That can be useful.
raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
ouch. I never made that comparison, but that is on point.
kameecoding@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Bro couldn’t even bring himself to mention protein folding because that’s too socialist I guess.
londos@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
You’re 100% right. I just grasped at the first example I could think of where the crawlers could do free work. Yours is Mich better. Left is best.
andallthat@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
LLMs can’t do protein folding. A specifically-trained Machine Learning model called AlphaFold did. Here’s the paper.
Developing, training and fine tuning that model was a research effort led by two guys who got a Nobel for it. Alphafold can’t do conversation or give you hummus recipes, it knows shit about the structure of human language but can identify pattern in the domain where it has been specifically and painstakingly trained.
It wasn’t “hey chatGPT, show me how to fold a protein” is all I’m saying and the “superhuman reasoning capabilities” of current LLMs are still falling ridiculously short of even sinpler problems.
patatahooligan@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
The crawlers for LLM are not themselves LLMs.
kameecoding@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
They can’t bitcoin mine either, so technical feasibility wasn’t the goal of my reply
mobotsar@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Crawlers aren’t LLMs; they can do arbitrary computations (whatever the target demands to access resources).
NeilBru@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Hey dipshits:
The number of mouth-breathers who think every fucking “AI” is a fucking LLM is too damn high.
Fucking fart-sniffing twats.
$ . /end-rant.sh
londos@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I went back and added “malicious” because I knew it wasn’t useful in reality. I just wanted to express the AI crawlers doing free work. But you’re right, bitcoin sucks.
raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
To be fair: it’s a great tool for scamming people (think ransomware) :/
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Great for money laundering.