You didn’t choose to be born to be American, but per your own admission in this thread you chose to not to vote. So you can fuck all the way off with this sanctimonious bullshit.
over_clox@lemmy.world 1 day ago
What I hope for those in other countries, is that they understand that I had no control or decision of what vagina I fell out of or what dirt I landed on.
I did not choose to be American, I was just born here. And I most certainly do not agree or approve of any war.
I do hope most other American citizens might agree with me.
Fuck Donald Turd.
PaupersSerenade@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Caffeinated_Sloth@lemmy.world 1 day ago
It’s also hard to leave. Many of us would leave if we had the means. Even for those who wish to stay and fight the blossoming authoritarianism must wage a nearly hopeless battle against powerful disinformation machines.
WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Exactly. You know how many countries US trans people can get asylum in? Zero. None. Zilch. There is not a country on Earth where a trans person in the US could qualify for asylum, even considering the vast rollback of trans rights currently underway. And if a member of a targeted minority group can’t get asylum status, then forget about nearly anyone else.
PhobosAnomaly@feddit.uk 1 day ago
I hear you, the issue for me is that a third of your country people voted for the cunt, another third didn’t care enough not to vote against the cunt, which leaves a large majority of Americans complicit in this - enough in my view to effectively use the term as a blanket reference to most people in the country.
Speaking on a more granular level, I wish you well and the best of luck - but the majority of your population can go fuck themselves.
Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
Don’t think for a second we dont have a strong flood emotions when we see the 66% of Americans who are a complete drain on the people around them face consequences for their actions. The fact is, it doesnt happen nearly enough and it never changes anything.
over_clox@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Has it ever crossed anyone’s mind, that those of that didn’t vote, was usually because we didn’t approve of either candidate?
I never approved of orange baby, plain and simple.
Kamala was cool though, looking to help people and not deceive them, and I just might have voted for her.
But even though I have no problem with a female president, she would have too many world stage problems with countries and groups that don’t respect women at all.
So, seeing both as a risk, why would I have voted for either? Like, why did Pete Buttiguieg drop out?
That’s the real question, what forces in play made my dude Pete drop out? I sure as hell would have voted for him!
Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
Boo. Boo this man.
agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Christ, do they not teach the trolley problem anymore?
“Has it ever crossed anyone’s mind that I didn’t want the 5 guys on the main track or the 1 guy on the side track to die?”
Duh. That’s the point. You act and feel guilty about a small bad thing, or do nothing and feel guilty and a big bad thing. We got the big bad ending, feel guilty.
capt_wolf@lemmy.world 1 day ago
“I didn’t like either, so I did nothing” is such a bullshit excuse…
Like it or not, we have a two party system. This was the worst possible time for anyone to decide to do nothing. Non-voters are just as complicit in what’s going on now because they chose to do fuck all when it actually mattered… I hope the righteous objection through inaction was worth it, because people are dying as a result now.
Passerby6497@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Life is full of decisions that seemingly only have bad options, but one option was clearly drastically worse than the other.
Not voting because you don’t like either candidate despite knowing that one is a crypto fascist with the intention to burn things down is childish and, IMO, means you don’t get to say you’re not responsible for trump.
Your choice in the election is a contributing factor, you don’t get a pass because you sat out. By not voting, you tacitly endorsed trump. It sucks to hear that put in your face, but that’s the same message I had to learn after 2016. I know you won’t like the message here, but I hope you take the lesson to heart and vote for the less awful candidates (assuming we get to have elections again) instead of taking your ball, going home, and letting a Nazi take power.
PaupersSerenade@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
So when the Padres got knocked out of the World Series last year by the Dodgers I was pissed. I didn’t want to put my support behind a team I didn’t love heart and soul. I felt comfortable doing that because it was a fucking sport trophy that happens every year and not who decided who held the office of the fucking President of the United States. You’re getting downvoted because you’re treating those two scenarios as exactly the same.
TachyonTele@piefed.social 1 day ago
A third did not vote for him. The popular vote was something like 51 to 48, which is insanely close. And a record number of people didn't even vote.
It's more like 1/6 voted for the asshole, and then the dems gave up the win before the night even ended.
entwine413@lemm.ee 1 day ago
Not voting was tacitly supporting Trump.
WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
A good chunk of Kamala’s platform was also actively supporting Trump.
daggermoon@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I voted for Kamala Harris. Never liked that orange fuck.
Saleh@feddit.org 1 day ago
Bombing Iran and letting Israel dictate American foreign policy are two things with strong bipartisan support.
Hillary Clinton campaigned in 2008 on the promise to bomb Iran. Biden couldnt even bring it over himself to enforce a demand for Israel to no starve Gaza to death and let Netanyahu humiliate him in public multiple times. And Biden/Clintons are the ultimate Democrats establishment.
Oka@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
A lot of people didn’t vote for him. A lot of people didn’t vote for democrat either. A growing number of people are voting for third parties now. Not enough to sway the vote, but enough to make a statement.
I think, in my lifetime, we will see a third party finally elected. The leading parties just aren’t cutting it anymore.
entwine413@lemm.ee 1 day ago
Yeah, the 3rd party voters are complicit in Trump’s actions, as are those who didn’t vote in protest.
When one candidate straight up says they’ll be a dictator on day one, anything but voting against them is supporting their actions.
Passerby6497@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Say it louder for those in the back plugging their ears and saying both sides are the same.
slackassassin@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Very clear explanation for xenophobia, no notes.