Comment on Operation Narnia: Iran’s nuclear scientists reportedly killed simultaneously using special weapon

SinningStromgald@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

• TeamAssimilation@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  This was clear since such a big and supposedly effective intelligence apparatus failed to stop or warn about the Hamas attack that gave Israel pretext to go full ethnic cleaning and warmongering.

  They knew, they allowed it, and paid a modest price in Israeli casualties to kickstart their plan. Also, Ukraine was attracting all the war funding, they couldn’t risk USA reducing their military allowance.

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  • SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    It would take one phone call from the President, and the genocide would stop. Biden could have done it, and Trump still can. I don’t see the US governments unwavering support of Israel ever ending.

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    • michaelmrose@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Bullshit

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      • nomy@lemmy.zip ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        You’ll need to elaborate if you want to actually contribute.

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    • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Who upvotes this shit? Are people here really this naive?

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      • SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I don’t see how that is naive at all. We prop Israel up. If the president calls Bibi and threatens to stop all aid, unless they imposed a ceasefire, it would happen. They have so much power, tech and weaponry because we give it to them. If we pointed the barrel of the most powerful military on earth at them, they would cease immediately.

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  • technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I hate that USA is enabling them,

    USA is just as guilty as the genocidal cult, perhaps even more so.

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  • rumimevlevi@lemmings.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    There we again with the israel has superior inteligence that can’t never make mistakes bs.

    Israel has many impressive operations but it doesn’t mean everything bad happen in israel is just according to a plan

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    • AwakenedAce@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Pretty sure there were reputable news articles right after Oct 7th that said that Israel’s intelligence was basically aware but decided to ignore it/dismiss it. So in this case they willfully ignored it for some reason, I wonder why…

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      • rumimevlevi@lemmings.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        They downplayed the threat, it’s not the first time they did just like Russia was also warned about Kursk offensive and still let it happen

        theguardian.com/…/revealed-russia-anticipated-kur…

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• AcidicBasicGlitch@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Fuck, also explains why Netenyahu jumped at the opportunity as soon as he avoided having his government dissolved by vote. Fuuuuck this is so much evil bullshit.

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  • Saleh@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I strongly recommend you to listen to Ilan Pappe. He describes well how Israels society has deep internal rifts as the narrative of Zionism ultimately failed to build a cohesive society.

    So ultimately Israel needs the eternal war for two main reasons:

    1. To keep the support by its western lapdogs up, by presenting itself as the eternal victim under war.
    2. To keep the internal pressure contained by the necessity to hold together because of war.

    See for example: www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9rr3j7vZGo

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• jonne@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I mean, that’s not really surprising. Every military makes plans for any contingency, and Israel especially has always been paranoid about Iran’s nuclear programme, so of course they would make sure they’re tracking the scientists in case they needed to make a move.

  The disgusting part is them just pulling the trigger for political reasons instead of actual intelligence that indicates a breakout.

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  • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Every military makes plans for any contingency,

    In defense, to respond to an attack. The word contingency is important.

    If the military is planning acts of aggression then that is called preparing for war.

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    • jonne@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Yeah, that’s definitely true for imperialist countries like Israel, the US and Russia.

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    • mwguy@infosec.pub ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Militaries tend to do both this things.

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      • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Only one is defensible.

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  • Ledericas@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    netanyahu is using the aggression as a way to stave off his own criminal trials prior to him being re-elected.

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• technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Have you never heard of zionism? This has been the plan for over a century.

  • en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Israel
  • mepei.com/greater-israel-an-ongoing-expansion-pla…

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  • TheLiveFive@lemm.ee ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Yeah it’s not that Israel is planning this, it’s that this is the plan of Israel the whole thing is this plan.

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• defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  November, you say? I wonder what happened in November that caused Netanyahu to be emboldened to the point of planning Iranian assassinations…

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• MangioneDontMiss@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  o no! israel thwarted iran’s nuclear ambitions! the horror!!!

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  • hark@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Iran has the right to defend themselves and israel has proven again that Iran is in need of this defense.

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  • kcweller@feddit.nl ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It’s civilian scientists working on nuclear energy we are talking about.

    You’re part of the problem.

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    • TheRealKuni@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It’s civilian scientists working on nuclear energy we are talking about.

      Is it though? What level of enrichment do they need for a nuclear energy program, and what level of enrichment were they at? I think it’s naive to say they weren’t working on a weapon.

      I’m not saying it justifies killing civilian scientists, but we ought to be honest about the why.

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      • kcweller@feddit.nl ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Where is the evidence that they are working on a weapon? There are people getting murdered because people have become brainwashed enough to just assume Iran is working on a nukes.

        I’m just saying, killing civilians on the basis of assumption is a pretty terrorist move and feels very similar to how Iraq was bombed to hell by America. But hey, that’s just my 2 cents.

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  • TheLiveFive@lemm.ee ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I’m sure you still think it was a great thing we got to iraq before they set off those wmd’s

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• Bloomcole@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  They have been bombing Iran for years, OC these lunatics had these plans already.

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