Fuck, also explains why Netenyahu jumped at the opportunity as soon as he avoided having his government dissolved by vote. Fuuuuck this is so much evil bullshit.
Comment on Operation Narnia: Iran’s nuclear scientists reportedly killed simultaneously using special weapon
SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Israel had been tracking Iranian nuclear scientists for years and the ten killed last week were marked for assassination in November of last year, Channel 12 says.
This bit stood out to me. Israel has been planning this war since at least November of last year. Israel’s current actions say this wasn’t a simple “what if…” contingency plan that a government comes up with. This was a plan they were going to put into action soon. Makes it even more disgusting to me.
AcidicBasicGlitch@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
Saleh@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
I strongly recommend you to listen to Ilan Pappe. He describes well how Israels society has deep internal rifts as the narrative of Zionism ultimately failed to build a cohesive society.
So ultimately Israel needs the eternal war for two main reasons:
- To keep the support by its western lapdogs up, by presenting itself as the eternal victim under war.
- To keep the internal pressure contained by the necessity to hold together because of war.
See for example: www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9rr3j7vZGo
jonne@infosec.pub 3 weeks ago
I mean, that’s not really surprising. Every military makes plans for any contingency, and Israel especially has always been paranoid about Iran’s nuclear programme, so of course they would make sure they’re tracking the scientists in case they needed to make a move.
The disgusting part is them just pulling the trigger for political reasons instead of actual intelligence that indicates a breakout.
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Every military makes plans for any contingency,
In defense, to respond to an attack. The word contingency is important.
If the military is planning acts of aggression then that is called preparing for war.
jonne@infosec.pub 3 weeks ago
Yeah, that’s definitely true for imperialist countries like Israel, the US and Russia.
Ledericas@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
netanyahu is using the aggression as a way to stave off his own criminal trials prior to him being re-elected.
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Have you never heard of zionism? This has been the plan for over a century.
TheLiveFive@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
Yeah it’s not that Israel is planning this, it’s that this is the plan of Israel the whole thing is this plan.
MangioneDontMiss@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
o no! israel thwarted iran’s nuclear ambitions! the horror!!!
kcweller@feddit.nl 3 weeks ago
It’s civilian scientists working on nuclear energy we are talking about.
You’re part of the problem.
TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
It’s civilian scientists working on nuclear energy we are talking about.
Is it though? What level of enrichment do they need for a nuclear energy program, and what level of enrichment were they at? I think it’s naive to say they weren’t working on a weapon.
I’m not saying it justifies killing civilian scientists, but we ought to be honest about the why.
kcweller@feddit.nl 3 weeks ago
Where is the evidence that they are working on a weapon? There are people getting murdered because people have become brainwashed enough to just assume Iran is working on a nukes.
I’m just saying, killing civilians on the basis of assumption is a pretty terrorist move and feels very similar to how Iraq was bombed to hell by America. But hey, that’s just my 2 cents.
MangioneDontMiss@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
o my sweet summer child…
kcweller@feddit.nl 3 weeks ago
I’m not saying they couldn’t be. I’m saying that the official body meant to oversee this has not yet put out proof that they are. So we can imagine all we want. If the professional independent watchdog that is checking for this has not officially made a statement with undeniable proof that they are, they aren’t.
Who has more insight in the matter, you or the IAEA?
TheLiveFive@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
I’m sure you still think it was a great thing we got to iraq before they set off those wmd’s
MangioneDontMiss@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
i’m sure i don’t make asinine assumptions about other people.
hark@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Iran has the right to defend themselves and israel has proven again that Iran is in need of this defense.
MangioneDontMiss@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
iran shouldn’t have funded hamas and terrorist activity around the world. Iran fucked around and now its finding out.
hark@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Iran is simply countering the terrorist state known as israel.
Bloomcole@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
They have been bombing Iran for years, OC these lunatics had these plans already.
defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
November, you say? I wonder what happened in November that caused Netanyahu to be emboldened to the point of planning Iranian assassinations…
TeamAssimilation@infosec.pub 3 weeks ago
This was clear since such a big and supposedly effective intelligence apparatus failed to stop or warn about the Hamas attack that gave Israel pretext to go full ethnic cleaning and warmongering.
They knew, they allowed it, and paid a modest price in Israeli casualties to kickstart their plan. Also, Ukraine was attracting all the war funding, they couldn’t risk USA reducing their military allowance.
SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
It would take one phone call from the President, and the genocide would stop. Biden could have done it, and Trump still can. I don’t see the US governments unwavering support of Israel ever ending.
michaelmrose@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Bullshit
nomy@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
You’ll need to elaborate if you want to actually contribute.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
Who upvotes this shit? Are people here really this naive?
SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
I don’t see how that is naive at all. We prop Israel up. If the president calls Bibi and threatens to stop all aid, unless they imposed a ceasefire, it would happen. They have so much power, tech and weaponry because we give it to them. If we pointed the barrel of the most powerful military on earth at them, they would cease immediately.
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
USA is just as guilty as the genocidal cult, perhaps even more so.
rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 3 weeks ago
There we again with the israel has superior inteligence that can’t never make mistakes bs.
Israel has many impressive operations but it doesn’t mean everything bad happen in israel is just according to a plan
AwakenedAce@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
Pretty sure there were reputable news articles right after Oct 7th that said that Israel’s intelligence was basically aware but decided to ignore it/dismiss it. So in this case they willfully ignored it for some reason, I wonder why…
rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 3 weeks ago
They downplayed the threat, it’s not the first time they did just like Russia was also warned about Kursk offensive and still let it happen
theguardian.com/…/revealed-russia-anticipated-kur…