Comment on Fake reviews on Play Store by Plex staff
DigDoug@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Well this thread is an absolute shitshow.
Jellyfin is great, but if you refuse to let yourself understand that Plex’s ease of setup for remote access is a point in its favour - especially when sharing with non-tech savvy people - then you’re just as bad as the supposed “Plex shills”.
Plex is well on the enshittification train, and I’ve always been a bit concerned about how private it may or may not be, but there’s absolutely no way I’d have been able to share a Jellyfin instance with my grandfather, especially as his dementia got worse.
How so?
Yo dad, heres the login:
username: dad
password: Pa$$TheP0pIf it asks for a URL on the first screen input the following URL:
https://jellyfin.domain.tld/
If you (or a relative) can’t manage that, I’d be afraid to even let you handle a car or open a bank account.
Can’t imagine you relative doesnt also have to create a plex account somewhere to then be invited to the plex share or input the URL to request access.
For the record, I fucking hate Plex.
But this is a disingenuous simplification of where the gap is.
Me, my brother-in-law, and friend all share our libraries with the same elderly relatives.
The GAP is that great grandma has to log in/out between servers to find content that may or may not be on an individual server. Plex lets you search/aggregate from all sources without having to jockey credentials and servers.
It’s not a giant ask. I heard a fucking absolutely brain-dead take that “that would require a centralized server which is against Jellyfins core ideology”.
So, I dunno. Maybe it isn’t YOUR use case, but it’s MY use case. Doesn’t make me a shill. I’m still pissed as hell.
But don’t fucking pretend that there is feature parity when there isn’t, and don’t accuse me of being a shill just because Jellyfin literally doesn’t support my use case. I WISH it did. I HATE PLEX.
You’re responding to the same disingenuous argument you see all over Lemmy made by folks whose jobs are in the IT field.
That being said, why hate Plex? I’m sure, like me, you’re grandfathered in. Is it fucking new users? Sure. Sucks. Not everything is a battlefield, and they’ll eventually fuck me and then I will abandon them, it is what it is. But for now, the shit just always works with almost no tweaking from me. I really can’t ask for much more. Got my mom to watch The Wire because of Plex.
I stopped trying to use Plex years ago (like 10) when that shit was just painful… AND they wanted to charge me for the luxury of that pain.
I’m sure it got lots better, but it left such a bad taste in my mouth at the time I’ve gone without easy media watching instead, and tried all sorts of things.
Hopefully Jellyfin keeps improving. I’d rather donate to them every year than pay a sub to Plex.
Glad it’s worked for you though, and I mean that. When Plex worked for me, it was pretty good.
I joined Plex a little at the end of 23, but only really started adding content early last year. I’m sort of glad I didn’t buy the lifetime pass, given the recent changes.
I’ve been able to share it with so many people (including tech-unfriendly family members). I guess we’ll just have to see what happens next with Plex, unless jellyfin becomes easier to set up for us less experienced home server folks…
The GAP is that great grandma has to log in/out between servers to find content that may or may not be on an individual server
What does this mean? I just have one Jellyfin server I put stuff on
They won’t even get to the login screen.
All my relatives seem to have Hisense VIDAA TVs. There’s a plex app on the store. Jellyfin would require an external device like a Chromecast or HTPC to use it.
I don’t disagree with you, at all. But what’s the $3/mo subscription you’re talking about? I haven’t had a Chrome/Firestick/whatever since like 2012, so I’m out of the loop
It’s the “Plex Remote Watch Pass”. A new charge for something that used to be free. www.plex.tv/plans/
But now telling then it’s $3/month to watch my pirated movies? No bueno.
I lol’d at this I won’t lie.
The individual who owns the server just needs the lifetime pass. People connecting to it doesn’t need to pay now.
Assuming you set it up for SSL, and you own and manage your own domain, and they’re using a computer. Easy. So for the 10% it’s cake.
How’s it look for the rest?
Oh cool so you’re ok with opening ports on your server to the internet with no authentication. Good for you. Most of us with the technical knowledge of hosting a media server know better.
Oh no, Chinese hackers know I only like the first 8 seasons of The Simpsons!
They would, I suppose, were my Jellyfin available to anyone living outside of my own state via geoblocking. You can’t even connect to it from the country I host the proxy from, not that they’d do anything if they could, all of the data shared is read-only.
I would’ve just let my setup be open, but, like you said, most of us with the technical knowledge of hosting a media server know better.
What’s not authenticated? Run it through nginx and cloudflare, what exactly am I missing?
github.com/jellyfin/jellyfin/issues/5415
A reverse proxy won’t help (unless you’re doing authentication with it). A cloudflare tunnel would help, if it requires authentication.
And Plex your opening 32400 not sure what your argument is.
I as an arch using turbonerd absolutely love jellyfin and how I can make it do what I want.
I run plex too, because the support I’d have to provide to family members when they need a password reset, or the jellyfin app doesn’t work right on their new Hisense smart TV would be the death of me.
This. Having the provide the support is what stops me from dropping plex entirely. I host jellyfin for the devices I control, and plex for my family and friends, all pointing to the same media.
Not that bad. It’s been about the same for Plex maybe less. Have had lots of Plex isn’t working when their servers where down.
Yeah but I’ve always blamed plex for 10 years even if it’s my fault, so they default to it being a plex issue and don’t bother me!
I have had very old and non techie people setup Jellyfin. Putting a URL in a box is not actually rocket science. I thought it would be way harder but they did it.
idunno jellyfin was stupid easy to set up and works for me. Plex seems terrible.
WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
I tried jellyfin but it isn’t even close to as a good as plex
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Same as my experience
surph_ninja@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Emby’s better than both, but jellyfin folks are probably going to crucify me for saying that.
Faceman2K23@discuss.tchncs.de 2 months ago
jellyfin was a fork of emby anyway, its core framework is solid.
Emby has more of the plex-like polish, but it is more closed source than I would prefer to trust with my media, so I get by with Jellyfin. It works more than well enough fro my in-home media streaming and I still run plex for my remote users as I bought a plex pass way back at the start and I’m going to use it until I simply cant anymore… which seems to be rapidly approaching.
surph_ninja@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Yeah, I get it. I just prefer the polish.
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
Can’t say me remote entry isnt working. Was streamong it from my phone in the firefox and chrome browser while on the go and also from my work pc.
Can’t imagine how easier one wants it to be in comparison (it’s literally like navigating to Youtube).
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
Always funny how anyone is crucified for using Windows or (how dare you) paid and/or free proprietary software.
Yet when it comes to something like Plex they always backpedal and either state that they don’t have something like that or it’s so convenient.
If one goes on a (F)OSS crusade at least be consistent… >:(
roofuskit@lemmy.world 2 months ago
As s someone with lifetime Emby premium, I switched to Jellyfin.
surph_ninja@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Why?
j0ester@lemmy.world 2 months ago
The UI for Jellyfin is horrendous.
Auli@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
I don’t get that. Both display content and seem very similar. Now does Jellyfin have problems yes.