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Zeppo@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
How much is normally in there? And how?
The FDA has rules for how much rodent shit or insect legs can be in your food. Realistically, there’s going to be some no matter what food producers do.
Here’s some of the rules for basically everything but dairy. Although you might not want to read them.
Dairy is so complicated that they have a searchable database. I found a couple of numbers for bacteria counts, but it seems to be an “it varies.”
The FDA has rules for how much rodent shit or insect legs can be in your food.
And these rules are for asthetic reasons, not safety, because the processes used kills any bacteria on them already.
It’s not just purely aesthetic, although that is a big part of it.
Some of it is actual quality not related to safety: if fruit is being processed after insects have already gone to town on it, that’s not the same quality of fruit that should’ve been used, and might actually affect the flavor.
Some of it is still safety. Freezing foods generally don’t kill bacteria, and sometimes don’t even kill molds or other fungi. Neither do packaging for shelf stable dry foods like flour, rice, cornmeal, etc. That’s why the danger in raw cookie dough comes from the flour, not the eggs.
And it’s an indirect issue, but insect contamination may also be an indicator of other dangers that aren’t solved by processing. Metal shavings or bits of rock can get into food, and having a tightly controlled process should prevent those dangers, too.
Sadly you can’t make things 100% clean even tho it’s disgusting but I think there is some limit of rat poop in foods and other things. Don’t know exactly how much tho. Just what I heard don’t quote me on this.
This is accurate - I used to work on food products in a past life.
Were you ratatouille in your past life? /s
No, but it was a niche enough industry that divulging it would dox me
I stopped drinking milk the day I learned that the FDA has a limit on the amount of puss from a burst udder blister, and it’s not 0%.
Milk has always grossed me out for weird reasons. Reading comments like this makes me glad for that.
And for anyone that has some kind of gross facts about oat milk, I DON’T WANT TO KNOW ABOUT IT THANKS!!!
The way we made fun of the war on drugs, I hope the future does the same with the Got Milk! Bullshit.
Wow I completely forgot about how hard they pushed the Got Milk campaign when I was a kid. Fucking weird in retrospect lol
The FDA also has a non-zero limit on insects in most foods, so you’re better off just growing and raising your own produce and animals.
See that doesn’t bother me as much. I’m a Boy Scout. Bugs and soil get in your food. So be it. I’m not ok with machine-milking cows until their udders begin to repeatedly blister and pop onto the milk.
It’s mastitis, so more like the whole portion, internally, is filled with puss. Which needs antibiotics…
Which will also have some amount of insects in them if grown outside, cause there are some things you just can’t control
Yeah, homegrown pus, rat shit and insect parts are much better! And who wants pasteurized milk anyway, listeria builds character
A not-insignificant amount.
Cows will shit in the milking shed with the same frequency as they will shit anywhere else they stand. Probably a higher freqency because they are often agitated by the loud noises, and hairless apes fondling them.
The machines used to milk them are very simple pneumatic massagers hooked up to a vacuum hose. If those machines fall off, or get kicked off by an agitated cow, they will suck up whatever else they come in contact with until someone notices and comes to pick them up again or shut them off.
It is an absolutely regular occurence that cow shit gets sucked up into the lines and pumped into the milk vat. Filter socks(think a coffee filter, but the size of a poster-tube) are installed in the line before the milk vat to reduce the amount of solids that make it through, but there is always some amount of liquefied cow shit ending up in the milk.
Just the usual amount. I don’t think we want to know.
About 20%
Probably somewhere betwen 10 PPM and 100 PPM
aeronmelon@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Manufacturer: “As much as legally allowed.”