Man these Democrats just cannot shut up.
Comment on Israel publicly announces genocidal intent
PointyReality@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I would love to come across one of the voters that voted for the orange fascist because they thought Kamala would be worse for the Palestines somewhere in the wild. It would be incredible to see if they still feel strongly about it now.
geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
toofpic@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Uh…I’m sorry to tell you, but republicans and Trump won. Everything that is happening right now is happening under republican rule. Sitting in your own piss abd blaming others don’t work anymore!
geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
Do you realize that Gaza has been completely flattened under Kamala Harris? Agent Orange is now bombing the ruins of Genocide Joe.
GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 weeks ago
Do you realize that Gaza has been completely flattened under Kamala Harris?
I think you’ve got your flashcards mixed up, comrade. You meant “Genocide Joe.”
Words are hard, especially English with all the “yours” and “theres” but keep trying!
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Huh. Didn’t realize Harris got elected. Someone should tell orangeboi.
Seriously dude: your first sentence is fully nonsense.
5in1k@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
Yes, the vice president controls the military. For sure, the military of another country. The tie vote for the senate, yeah ok.
toofpic@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
When was that “under Kamala”? Is it in this room with us right now?
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 weeks ago
Kamala would be doing the exact same thing as Donald Trump.
Uh huh.
Muaddib@sopuli.xyz 5 weeks ago
Spare us your piffle.
PointyReality@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Biden was pressuring Israel to act but also to do so with civilians in mind and to allow humanitarian efforts or risk getting cut off from military aid. Also the line that Kamala most probably would have towed as well. This is for those familiar with global politics is expected between long standing allies ( something Trump is currently failing at every stage currently). Meanwhile Orange Musolini has basically said “Have at it, also that spot there would be great for a hotel”. So I fail to see how you could even compare the two. But sure I guess if you happened to fail to grasp the nuance in global politics.
Unless you happened to have another point to make that is more substantive then “bOth PaRtIeS”.
geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
Muaddib@sopuli.xyz 5 weeks ago
May you live in interesting times.
Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
No, they didn’t apply any genuine pressure, just empty rhetoric while continuing to provide billions worth of weapons unconditionally while Netanyahu ignored every “red line” with zero consequences. Biden is a self-proclamed Zionist, he had no issue with the genocide. All the empty rhetoric was just theater
The rhetoric coming out of the White House, when it has been focused on peace or restraint, rather than continuous war, has been undercut at every turn by its actions. The constant supply of weapons — $17.9 billion of bullets, bombs, shells, and other military aid in the past year — has allowed Israel to keep waging its war on Gaza, and in recent weeks, expand that war to Lebanon and threaten to escalate its conflict with Iran. Despite documentation of U.S. weapons being used in probable war crimes, and credible allegations that Israel is committing genocide in its war on Gaza, the bombs have continued to flow.
Year of Empty Rhetoric From the White House on Israel’s Wars
PointyReality@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Did Biden deport anyone protesting this? If the answer is no then historically speaking protests while being allowed have always been a way to apply pressure for change. I won’t argue that they definitely could have done alot more but I won’t accept that both parties are same when at least one of them would have still allowed a way to potentially have changed their stance when the other just deports them because they are fascists.
UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
Reduce the influence of parties by passing state level electoral reform. Replace of First-past-the-post voting, use a voting system that let’s voters transfer their vote if their first pick didn’t win. Give 3rd parties the opportunity to participate without a spoiler effect.
You do support democracy right?
PointyReality@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
May I ask what you wrote has to do with anything about the article or what I wrote?
AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
Biden was pressuring Israel to act
idiot
Muaddib@sopuli.xyz 5 weeks ago
They’re not comparing the two. They’re equating them. Comparing is what you’re doing. It’s a good thing. You compared them and decided Trump is worse. The spy you’re talking to won’t compare them, and that’s bad.
PointyReality@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
You are correct, I should have said equating them towards the end of my point. You are also correct that the opposing side always equates both political sides as essentially the same while failing to recognise the stark differences between them. Although both sides are not perfect, it’s not a nuanced difference like it was before MAGA crazy took over.
puchaczyk@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 weeks ago
Selling lgbt people, ethnic minorities, immigrants, poor people dependent on social programs only to gain… nothing. What a deal…
geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
First they came for the Palestinians. And you did not speak out because you are not a Palestinian.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 weeks ago
No, we did speak up. We just also understand basic causality.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 weeks ago
Holy shit do you have a camera that takes photos of alternate timelines?
meowMix2525@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
Were you not here for the last year of Biden’s presidency or something?
Muaddib@sopuli.xyz 5 weeks ago
You wear a collar.
GreyAlien@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
Post about israel stating they will exterminate Palestinians
You: it’s because of leftists and muslims and communist and santa maybe batman too.
Way to subtly change the subject and optics. Why don’t you focus on the fact that the United States is currently aiding and supporting a genocide that has been unfolding for the last 70 years? I’m not american and I would have voted for Harris if I was one, but you are disgraceful for using minorities like tokens you can use and throw as you please, I’m quite certain that even if all of them voted for Harris, trump would still have been elected due to your f***** up gerrymandering policy. Putting the blame on hundreds of thousands and not on the millions of apolitical voters is MAGA level nonsense.
rocket_dragon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 weeks ago
WELL, it’s worth discussing that leading up to the 2024 US General Election there was a bit of a bizarre alliance between global leftists and MAGA when it comes to media and information warfare.
For completely opposite reasons each, of course. MAGA thought Trump was going to take the US to being the next level of Imperialist superpower. Global leftists thought Trump was going to destroy the US’s power and influence and end the era of the US being the world’s sole superpower.
Only time will tell who was correct. Right now it looks like the global leftists were right - the US’s influence is rapidly deteriorating, and it may never recover.
Trump is looking like a big global leftist win in taking down the US - at the cost of many Palestinian lives. And maybe this was the trolley dilemma, with millions of Palestinians on one track, and billions of people on the other. Can we accuse leftists of being the ones to flip the switch? No, but leftists absolutely argued in favor of flipping the switch to trump and the downfall of America, at the cost of many Palestinian lives.
GreyAlien@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
You are right that it is necessary to have this conversation but is it the right place to do it under this particular post ?
Also even if I totally understand your point of view and could definitely debate about it, something is bothering me, where does the democratic party errors comes into play? Why put all the blames on a minor part of the voter base? If we look at hard numbers the chances of Kamala winning were still extremely low even if she won their votes so it’s seem pointless for me to always keep poking the wounds under any post with a mention of Palestinians.
My point is that we should be going forward and not ostracizing a part of the voter base even more, these are hard times ahead of us and uniting is what I think the only solution, some Pro-Palestinians may have not voted or even voted for trump but we need to remember that if they are (rightly) angry it’s because they have been failed, I cannot fathom how one must feel seeing dozens of corpses everyday that looks like them for more than a year while knowing their taxes go towards the ones doing it.
It’s a duty to reconcile the voter base and create a strong front against fascism worldwide.
rocket_dragon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 weeks ago
Global leftists want the fall of America
Global leftists advocate for the fall of America
America starts falling
People suffer because America is calling
It’s going to be difficult for global leftists to find a willingness for solidarity and cooperation with the suffering people, who feel like their suffering was the goal. But with a lot of creativity, might be possible.
Now for sure, people were already suffering under Capitalism previously, but leftists are basically pitching the same " it has to get worse so it can get better" story as Elon Musk.
Now if leftists had backed Kamala, and Trump won, suffering people would be flocking to the left, instead of blaming them.
So… Sucks.
PointyReality@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Please point out where in my post I said that their vote would have even caused a flip in the election results, there was a group that withheld their vote in protest (not the ones that simply did not vote). So I will say there is no evidence I can produce that they voted for Trump, but the chance of none existing is not zero either. So yes I would like to talk to one of those voters or non-voters in protest to better understand why they initially thought a withholding of their vote in the first place when the worse option was clearly the other option should the election go one way in light of the current votes.
Understanding what went wrong at all levels, and those protesting and withholding their votes was part of that issue. So cannot and should not be ignored if we are to learn from this for the future.
GreyAlien@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
I’m sorry but in this context, under this specific post, you do not seem genuine or honest from my POV, if you are truly interested in my opinion you will find it in this thread.
What else is there to say if not than the democrats have pushed for the ostracism of their own base to pander to their donors, failed to reach a majority of the population due to a baseless political program…?
Keep on poking, acting all virtuous, and generalizing the minority yet most activist part of your voter base… I mean wake me up when the democrats do the next protest, I wouldn’t want to miss such a rare occurrence, and oh my… The cardboard are so creative…
LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 weeks ago
I have no idea what you’re on about vis a vis voted for Trump believing he’d be better for Palestine. A minority people refused to vote Kamala because of her open support of genocide, but that doesn’t mean they voted for Trump.
In either case, why is it their fault and not the fault of the democratic establishment exactly? Shouldn’t your ire be for establishment democrats who refused to stop supporting a genocide? They could’ve done that, you know. This might blow your fucking mind but democrats can actually do stuff. No one was holding Kamala secretly at gun point and forcing her to support genocide. She refused to stop and instead parroted the usual talking points of Israel’s “right to defend itself.” Shouldn’t that be the subject of your anger and frustration? Shouldn’t you be furious at the democratic establishment becoming more and more conservative as time goes on? Shouldn’t you be outraged at the way democrats persecute the progressive elements within their own political party? Instead of angry at the handful of people who tried to make their voices heard on the subject of literally funding and arming genociders?
UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
Deep down the blue conservatives understand that the democrats cannot change because that would upset their donors for their billion dollar campaigns.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 weeks ago
I have no idea what you’re on about vis a vis voted for Trump believing he’d be better for Palestine.
These people were here and very vocal. Whether or not they were real people is another question.
LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 weeks ago
I just do not think that is representative of the larger push back against Kamala’s campaign for supporting further Palestinian genocide. The majority of people who fell into this camp of refusing to vote for her were Palestinians. They had every right not to vote for someone who openly said she would continue to fund and arm the people killing their families and utterly destroying their communities. The correct thing was always for the Democrats to support human rights globally, to stand firmly against colonialism and stand with the Palestinians. They refused to do that. It’s honestly incredibly gross to find fault with people refusing to politically support people who are explicitly involved in the destruction of their people.
Stop punching down. Punch someone who actually deserves it for once. The democratic party does not have to be the conservative genocide supporting party against the fascist aspirational genociders party. Thats what they are now. They are far more committed to furthering the neo-liberal ideals of “western enterprise” and “american power” than they are committed to doing what is right for their own citizens or people across the world. They will do small gestures of support for minority rights and anti-colonialism but when push comes to shove if it means sacrificing their ruling class wealthy benefactors they will refuse. This isn’t going to change by fighting other working class people. It isn’t going to change by punching down.
UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
Rule 2: Be respectful, especially when disagreeing. Everyone should feel welcome here.
You got a temp ban for calling people children, stupid/delusional and trolls. We can all see your moderation history by going in the menu under the three dots.
Oh I see you told people to die just a month ago. Hope you get well soon.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 weeks ago
How about that historic peace deal? Gotta give Trump credit!
🤡
PointyReality@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Please point out in my comment where I said there cote would have flipped the election results, also please note you and others stated alot as evidence for these can be found that the majority just did not vote in protest because of this issue. But I won’t accept that there is zero that actually did vote for Trump for this issue that is mathematically improbable.
People write of the non-voters or the ones (I will accept that these are very small amount) as a non-issue to focus on. But for me even understanding all facets of why they did what they did in light of how it’s currently panning out is to me a better understanding to find out what really went/going on in relation to people and this issue within their decision making particularly because there was a chance it could have been remotely better then what is occurring right now.
LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 weeks ago
I’m not saying that not even a single person voted for Trump, mistakenly believing his human rights policies to be better. I am saying that is an extreme outlier. The majority of those refusing to vote for Kamala Harris in relation to the ongoing Palestinian genocide were Palestinians.
Just reading the last paragraph really shows how separated you are from the concept of genocide. The amount of death and destruction wrought while Biden was president is unlike anything that had happened there before the Nakba. The equivalent of several nuclear bombs. The total devastation of their entire culture. They pleaded with the Biden administration for a full year. They protested around the world. Biden and Harris did nothing. Harris indicated she was going to continue the Biden admin’s policy agenda with Israel. You were asking them to vote for people who openly said they’d arm and fund a regime that is decimating their communities, murdering their families, raping their people, and destroying their homeland. This ALL happened under Biden, and Harris openly refused to commit to changing that.
PointyReality@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Versus the current situation. I still stand firm in my belief that there was a better chance to have had a better outcome for Palestine under the alternative administration then the current one who deports people for speaking out against it.
I am not separated by anything that is occurring in Palestine or the lack of humanity surrounding the issue, it’s a tragedy and one that is likely to repeat if we don’t understand what went wrong with people and how they interpreted not only the parties but the whole situation leading up to the election. One campaign was very authoritarian in their messaging and the other simply said no. Under which administration do you think there would have been a better chance to have had applied more pressure and possibly create a change in their stance towards this issue?
OwlHamster@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
6 months up to the election there were posts on Lemmy every single day with people saying they were going to protest vote for Trump because of Gaza.
LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 weeks ago
This may surprise you but Lemmy isn’t the whole world. Even excluding the many users who arent American, the users who are do not number such a large percentage as to influence the outcome of an election.
OwlHamster@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
Never said it did. Never even said they were American. You’re original comment made it seem like people like this didn’t exist at all.
PanArab@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
I didn’t vote for Trump but let’s not pretend that Harris was going to stop it as she didn’t distance herself from Biden on this issue. Biden had 15 months and he didn’t, not even symbolically at the UN choosing to veto ceasefire, vote against Palestinian right to self determination and continue sending Israel weapons.
chiliedogg@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
The fuck you on about? Trump announced to the world that the intent is to remove all Palestinians, permanently, to build resorts.
When did Kamala openly say the genocide should be accelerated and made total?
PanArab@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
I agree that Trump is worse overall, but Harris would have still continued what Biden was doing and would have allowed the genocide to continue. By the end of Biden’s term 80% of Gaza was already destroyed, over 40,000 killed and Blinken at least once suggested removing the Palestinians from Gaza to Egypt and Jordan on his meeting with Arab leaders. It was covered in Arabic media but you may have missed it. Trump didn’t come up with anything new, he is just more unabashed and crude about it.
I voted for Jill Stein by the way.
PointyReality@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Now I am not saying that what Biden had done or what Kamala would have done would have been or was enough, but equating Trump with those two shows the lack of understanding of them trying to pressure a long time ally without completely acting to tear up that historical friendship between the two countries. Do you have a source for those numbers btw, a found few articles but most show way less then that so I am curious where you got those numbers.
AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
When did Kamala openly say the genocide should be accelerated and made total?
Your brain is fucking mush.
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 weeks ago
“yOu ShoULd hAve vOTeD FOr OuR BabY kiLLeR INsTeAD!”
UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
The strawman keep getting bigger and bigger in these threads. Pretty soon they will be so big we will be able to host burning man.
It would be incredible if democrats got rid of First-past-the-post boring in the blue states they control so people could be free to vote outside the two party system with no spoiler effect. But capitalists hate competition.
As we can see by democratic inaction on reforming the voting system at the state level, democrats want to continue the hostage situation they present in every election. This is not democracy. Forcing people to vote for your preference will never be democracy. Thus the voting system flaws must be treated like the crisis that it is.
We must be pushing for electoral reform in every state, but why is it so difficult to get the supposed democracy advocates in the democratic party to start moving towards making these critical reforms happen in states they control?
Feel free to make excuses for the democrats. Feel free to attack me all you want. State level rlectoral reform will continue to be the nonviolent way out of this mess. I hope yall come around, even if it probably is to late.
Electoral Reform Videos
First Past The Post voting (What most states use now) Videos on alternative electoral systems STAR voting Alternative vote Ranked Choice voting Range Voting Single Transferable Vote Mixed Member Proportional representation
PointyReality@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
You falsely assume that I even considered these people having the overall numbers to even flip the election results, my comment is based on seeing how they feel about their decision now considering they were quite vocal about not voting for Kamala because she was a warhawk and therefore voted for a supposed “better”.
The rest of your point has nothing to do with the article nor my point. So please ensure keep to the topic on hand.
GreyAlien@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
Anything but not talk about the actual post… smh
WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
I would love to meet the people that thought they could use even worse genocide to excuse their own genocide.
Revan343@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
I too would like to come across one in the wild, because despite people constantly bitching about them, I’ve yet to see evidence that they exist
PointyReality@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Please see the below excerpt from reddit:
“# CMV: Leftist Single Issue Voters are a massive problem for Democrats.
For context, I am a leftist, by American standards at least, and have seriously considered not voting in the upcoming election because of the Anti-Palestine stance taken by the Democrats. That said, I have realized how harmful of an idea that is for the future of our country and for progressive politics in general. The core issue with Single Issue Voters is that they will almost always either vote Republican or not vote at all, both of which hurt Democrats“
Also link to an article that shows there was in the very least uncommitted voters because of this. Yes, I will admit it does not mean they actually voted for Trump but their inaction caused the same result even if they did vote for Trump.
theguardian.com/…/uncommitted-campaign-democrats-…
So let allow me to correct my initial statement here for you, I would like to meet to talk to those who withheld their vote because they thought to make a statement about the genocide in Gaza in the light of the current Authoritarian administration.
belastend@slrpnk.net 5 weeks ago
They are in this thread
Revan343@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
Link?
belastend@slrpnk.net 5 weeks ago
Not in this thread, i do apologize.
BlemboTheThird@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
I was gonna say “there’s tons of em on .ml” but one of em was nice enough to prove it right in this thread
PointyReality@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Yeah, I am happy to try and go back and forth with odd stray here. Not sure what those other heavily moderated conservative instances are like but if they are like the askconservative subreddit where I had to avoid using triggering words such as Trans because they would go all snow flakey on me then I suspect they might be the same even here.
TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
One of them made this post.
Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 5 weeks ago
I, too would like to meet Sasquatch one day. /j
JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
The only real difference is Harris would have voiced disapproval rather than approval. Netanyahu seems pretty adamant about following this course. I doubt any conservative president would be able to stop it.
Muyal@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I like how the people that a year ago were telling you to shut up about Palestine because it was hurting Biden are now trying to guilt trip you about Palestine
knatschus@discuss.tchncs.de 5 weeks ago
Haven’t seen that once.
Muyal@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
knatschus@discuss.tchncs.de 5 weeks ago
Still don’t get it, what has a rollingstone about pelosi article to do with the strawman you build?
Rhoeri@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I like how the people that a year ago were yelling at everyone to not vote democratic are now blaming l everyone who warned them what would happen if they didn’t.
AJ1@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
it’s about hurting the right people. whomever you need to hurt to push your agenda through, that’s who needs a whoopin’, but once that’s been accomplished, you can go back to hurting the people you really want to hurt. that’s “Freedom”, American Style
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 weeks ago
Lol at all of the “hurr durr I don’t know who you’re talking about because actually blah blah blah” replies. Easy way to identify exactly who you’re referring to though…
LeninOnAPrayer@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
I love when people try to make some type of comparison between one fascist foreign policy party and another like one is better.
This is American foreign policy. It is bipartisan. The only difference between Biden and Trump on Israel is the aesthetics.
There is absolutely no reason to guilt anyone for not voting for the administration that was currently supporting a genocide or one that voted for the one that would support one in the future. US foreign policy is bipartisan.
PointyReality@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
The fact you even thought to call both policies fascist is incredible to me.
One side at least attempted to apply pressure. Was it enough and more should have been done I will not argue with that. But no way in shape or form is the current option better when there was better chance of something happening under the other option given enough pressure.
Plenty of reason to understand these people better so that messaging can be refined for the future, if they choose to feel guilt over their action or inaction because of this then good. Because look at whats happening and if this was their sole reason for withholding or voting another way then yeah I say they need to feel guilt so they can learn themselves how to better use their power to create change.
Ledericas@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
“shes not good,”" i dont like her" or she dint make useful arguments in her campaign" codewards for sexist reason they dint vote for her.
Iceman@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Internet though guy over here, lol.
Grimy@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Most just abstained, voters who actually switched sides don’t exist imo. If you voted trump last election, you never would have voted kamala even if she actually tried to win.
That being said, I can’t really blame people for drawing the line at genocide of all things. The dems thought they had an easy win so they decided to represent genocide instead of us, the voters. I still voted for them regardless but it felt altogether gross. It shouldn’t feel that way, they are supposed to be the good ones.
I don’t think we should condone the behavior by pivoting the blame to voters, who are just trying to be heard since clearly the democratic party has stopped listening.
rocket_dragon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 weeks ago
An abstain from voting is a vote that says “I’m fine with anyone or everyone”. An abstain is a vote that says “I am complacent to the outcome”.
If you want to protest, if nothing else, write in.
They didn’t draw the line at genocide. If you stand and watch and do nothing you are complicit in the genocide.
LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 weeks ago
I’ll quote another comment of mine in this same thread.
The continuing refusal of liberals to have any empathy for Palestinians is entirely emblematic of the failures of the democratic party. Over and over and over again you will compromise on genocide, compromise on human rights itself, to defend the disgusting political decisions of the democratic establishment. It’s never the fault of the democratic establishment for funding and arming a genocide, it’s always the fault of the minorities who wouldn’t vote for a party support the killing of their families and razing of their communities. How in god’s name do you plan to fight against fascism if you can’t even stand against racist colonialist ideology in the political party you support?
rocket_dragon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 weeks ago
It’s like you didn’t read my post at all, maybe you accidentally replied to the wrong post.
I didn’t tell anyone to vote Kamala or DNC, I said a write-in vote is a protest vote. For the love of God you can write in “anti-genocide” or “I stand with Palestine” as your vote, that is a protest.
Keeping this short because I hope you actually read this.
azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
This ain’t an insurance claim. Multiple parties can be, and are, in the wrong.
The democratic party leadership should resign effective 10 years ago. It’s obviously entirely corrupted by corporate interests. The citizens who decided that was an excuse to sit on the sidelines to enable a full-blown fascist takeover are fascist enablers - which is not mutually exclusive with being victims. And they share the blame.
Anyway none of that fucking matters anymore because america had its last free federal election. You’ll excuse the rest of the world for being bitter about it because, and I cannot stress enough how deadly serious I am writing these words, we’ll be insanely lucky if the Palestinian Genocide ends up being the worst humanitarian disaster to come out of Trump’s electoral win. This motherfucker has fully and irreversibly upended 80 years of Pax Americana and now after decades of relative standstill Nuclear Proliferation is once again underway as american allies can no longer rely on the nuclear umbrella and enemies are no longer betting on a coherent and predictable foreign policy. Canada, Poland, South Korea, and probably more are now seriously contemplating or already working on a nuclear weapons program, not to mention that he expedited Iran’s own nuclear program in his first term in case you forgot. The genuine threat of Nuclear War is once again looming on the horizon, even if most people are too dense or too wrapped up in culture wars to notice.
So yeah, I’m real fucking mad at any fucking idiot American who ate the lies and astroturfing about Palestine, who refused to participate in harm reduction and subsequently enabled Trump and potentially doomed the whole of Humanity to a nuclear war in the medium term. From the bottom of my heart, fuck them.
Cethin@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
Yeah, no. We don’t have that many Palestinians here.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 weeks ago
What about all of the AOC/Trump voters? People are really fucking stupid here.