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They Said Self-Hosting Was Hard! - arthurpizza

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Submitted ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨meldrik@lemmy.wtf⁩ to ⁨selfhosted@lemmy.world⁩

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  • fizzle@quokk.au ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I wouldn’t say it’s “hard”, but taking responsibility for all the photos your wife took of your darling children growing up is… a thing.

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    • Hule@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      For old photos, you can easily have half a dozen copies on old HDDs, DVDs, cloud… a few GB maybe? How many photos can be that important?

      If you bork your server, those photos are not lost, just harder to access. The Missus can still be upset, just not as much.

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      • fizzle@quokk.au ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        I know there are solutions, but if you never get involved its never your responsibility.

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  • jobbies@lemmy.zip ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Dick. I’ve spent two days tearing my hair out trying to get restic to connect to hetzner. Hate it when folk spend a couple of hours tinkering with Plex and they’re all like ‘yeah this is a breeze you’re clearly a moron’.

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  • realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    As long as you don’t directly connect it to the internet, it’s not hard.

    When you do, it does become hard.

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    • Itsamelemmy@lemmy.zip ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I thought so too for a long time. Had to figure it out for actual budget though. Tailscale makes that aspect pretty simple. Still probably too complex for your average user, but if you’re setting up self hosted apps you should be able to figure it out.

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      • realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        The “average user” shouldn’t selfhost anything. Might sound mean or like gatekeeping, but it’s the truth. It can be dangerous. There’s a reason why I hire an electrician to do my house installation even tho I theoretically know how to do it myself - because I’m not amazingly well versed in it and might burn down my house, or worse, burn down other peoples houses.

        People who are serious about selfhosting need to learn how to do it. Halfassing it will only lead to it getting breached, integrated into a botnet and being a burden on the rest of humanity.

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    • autriyo@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Only if you care about security, which you should ofc.

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      • realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        People who don’t care about security are the cancer of the selfhosting-world. Billions of devices are part of a botnet because lazy owners don’t care about even the most basic shit, like changing the stock password. It’s insane.

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      • LunaChocken@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        I setup caddy and a proxy server for ingress.

        Essentially I have a server with wireguard connections between my home server and the external VM.

        Proxy using proxy protocol with nginx so it preserves the ip.

        DNS certificate management with cloudflare, and I’ve got Authelia in front of the majority of my websites, with some exclusion rules, say for a share link.

        Authelia has mandatory 2FA, anything less is silly, with Grafana alloy scrapping caddy metrics.

        Anywho most of my stuff runs in docker. The stuff I don’t want on the WAN but on tailscale/Lan has a filter to block the wireguard interface.

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  • MagnificentSteiner@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Who are they? Hard for who?

    I propose a new title… “This thing I know a lot about is easy!”

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    • jimmy90@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      yes quite - self hosting is tricky and dangerous

      i think there is space for a distro or box you can plug into your router that makes it safe and easy

      maybe that’s what unraid and trunas are getting towards?

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  • Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Because it is for those who aren’t sysadmins or at least amateur Linux enthusiasts. The easiest tools quickly become very hard when something breaks and you got no one who could fix things for you you don’t know anything about.

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  • MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Now try that rootless.

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  • jaschen306@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Immich is amazing until you update and your wife is complaining she can’t see her photos.

    The most reliable piece of hardware and software I have is my Synology.

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    • Buck@jlai.lu ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Now that it’s in stable release, is it really still the case?

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      • ShortN0te@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Honestly, the time i had to manually intervene since ~2 years is less then 5-10 times, and that is way before the stable release. So I doubt that.

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      • jaschen306@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        You know, I have been using Immich since forever. The last issue was probably a year ago.

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    • meldrik@lemmy.wtf ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Don’t update anything without a way to restore.

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      • Justifier@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        I just rename the immich file, install a new immich instance and copy the data over manually to the new install, deleting the old install file after a week or so

        I’ve had the least buggy experience that way

        Immich updating is a dogwater experience

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  • Decronym@lemmy.decronym.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I’ve seen in this thread:

    Fewer Letters More Letters
    DNS Domain Name Service/System
    HTTP Hypertext Transfer Protocol, the Web
    nginx Popular HTTP server

    [Thread #134 for this comm, first seen 5th Mar 2026, 16:50] [FAQ] [Full list] [Contact] [Source code]

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  • jaschen306@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I don’t. Synology stores all the files and it comes with Synology photos, but it’s clunky if you don’t have an Intel chip that has an onboard GPU.

    I have a 10 GbE connection to my proxmox running the immich with only read access.

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