And in order to achieve it we need to get rid of some dipshit CEOs
is this copium or hopium or schizophrenia?
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FreudianCafe@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
ULS@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
Hopium. There’s far too much “evil” force in this world for there to ever be an edan or unity. Overall chaos is what got us to our current state of humanity. Chaos will always be.
Don’t read that as me saying humans are shit though. It’s more like humans don’t want to take their lack of “power” seriously. Which is natural or whatever… I know it all sounds negatives, but I don’t mean for it to sound negative. Chaos is the only constant, order comes from it, but chaos is always dominant from the present moment to the future.
Kolanaki@yiffit.net 8 months ago
None of the things mentioned here that we could achieve would require an absence of evil or need the whole world to cooperate.
KeenFlame@feddit.nu 8 months ago
It’s very rational, it’s always been mocked and looked down upon to be optimistic. But through the ages it has been proven to be true that we achieve much more than we imagine.
However the pessimism built in to most people probably helps this drive and is actually a good thing.
AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I believe the first paragraph except colonizing space, at least not without hundreds of years of new technology at the human pace of invention.
We humans cannot even minimally adequately care for one another or this habitat, the one we evolved from, the most accommodating, self-correcting(to a point), resilient habitat that humanity will EVER know by far, and we’ve been fucking it up like breathing. .
Everything else in non-multigenerational reach will be completely and totally unforgiving. Even in the best circumstances, one person going stir crazy if we’re talking about sending real people can literally get everyone else killed, one major failure everybody dead, one major accident everybody dead. Sorry, I know most of us are deluded into believing salvation comes from reckless attempts at growth, but if we don’t get this world fully squared away from the consequences of our reckless actions, find homeostasis AND successfully meet the needs of the humans here on easy mode Earth, the idea that we can make colonies of hundreds or thousands on our Moon/Titan/Mars is a bad joke.
We can send 5-20 HIGHLY TRAINED perfect specimens to Mars to plant a flag and grow potatoes for a few years, and I’m all for that as a human rallying achievement, we really need one of those, but that isn’t the same thing as developing a true, sustainable presence on another world.
1rre@discuss.tchncs.de 8 months ago
I believe none except colonising space… The others are so far off that we don’t even know for sure if they’re even possible, what’s going to go wrong or whether we’re looking in the complete wrong direction, meanwhile you’re dismissing the only realistic one because we’re close enough that we actually know how hard it is.
There’s something to be said about chasing after things that are impossible as the possible seems too hard, but I’m not enough of a philosopher for that.
hamsterkill@lemmy.sdf.org 8 months ago
Knowing how hard something is can be a larger barrier than not knowing. But the main barrier preventing space colonies is the same thing preventing ocean colonies — “Why?”. What motivation is there to settle space? Exploration and experimentation can be done for motivation of seeing if we can, but settling needs known payoff both for the settlers and the funders.
Asteroid mining is the only current suggested motivation for such a thing. And it’s very possible that by the time we figure out asteroid capture, we won’t need humans present for that work.
Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 8 months ago
Is that new reality going to end up being a shinier version of Office Space for everyone, everywhere, forever?
If so you can keep all that shit.
daikiki@lemmy.world 8 months ago
If it weren’t for the thieving class and the people who fall for their bullshit, I’m convinced we’d be having serious discussions about what it means to live in a post-scarcity society by now.
uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 months ago
I’m sure we could do all of these things if we weren’t biased towards consolidating power into the hands of a few biased individuals.
Of course, I’m just quoting Fourth International Posadist rhetoric, but Posadas may have a point.
I can confidently say we won’t do any of these things until we can kill capitalism and trends towards autocracy.
SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 months ago
I can confidently say we won’t do any of these things until we can kill capitalism and trends towards autocracy.
So basically never. The appetite of the regular person to revolt is nonexistent, unfortunately.
uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 months ago
Never is a long time. The common people are tiring of what capitalism has wrought and the ongoing drive to force people to do more for less and discard those who are sufficiently useful. Our appetite to revolt may well be fueled by this push. A greater danger is the tendency for successful revolutions to turn into serial dictatorships, each overthrowing the previous one until everyone is dead tired of war. France took around a century to sort itself out from monarchy, and today is still capitalist.
On the other hand, the climate crisis might drive us to extinction, and if it doesn’t, is estimated (by the few who dare to estimate it) to reduce the population to below 500 million. If we end up migrant tribes again, we might be able to tackle the trends towards feudalism early.
And the climate crisis is not the only great filter we’re being confronted with. Personally, I don’t hope anymore so much as look soberly at where we are now and try to guess at where we’ll go. And for now the best we can do in the US is hope we can obstruct and delay the steady march towards autocratic fascism until the desperados running the Republican party can’t keep it together anymore.
I know that’s not inspiring, but if someone is saying something to inspire us, they’re taking us for marks.
magnetosphere@fedia.io 8 months ago
I’m especially cynical when it comes to the “cure all human diseases” part.
You want to manage a disease. Make it tolerable and survivable. That way, you’ve got a
patientcustomer for life, and you can milk them for decades.Conyak@lemmy.tf 8 months ago
I agree! We just need to kill capitalism for that to happen.
forrgott@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Ugh. So many places in the world already have abundance that is hard to imagine; but that’s only the case because of extreme hoarding of resources and wealth.
thinkyfish@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I don’t disagree with any of these things, we just don’t know when they will come to be and its going to be a rough ride, with old and new systems fighting, the history and the future all happening at once. We are experiencing something that has never happened to any species on earth, or maybe in the entire universe ever, so we’re flying blind.
THE_ANTIHERO@lemmy.today 8 months ago
Methium . Seems like elon is sharing bruh.
Daqu@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Monorail! Monorail! Monorail!
theodewere@kbin.social 8 months ago
he wants to live inside his computer
KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
Capitalism.
dog_@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Yes.
PoliticallyIncorrect@lemmy.world 8 months ago
DMT
veeesix@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
All of this can be yours for the low, low price of $19.99/month.
lvxferre@mander.xyz 8 months ago
It’s a character flaw called “wishful belief” - that is, failure to distinguish between what you predict that’ll happen and what you hope that’ll happen.
RobotToaster@mander.xyz 8 months ago
yes
slowroll@r.nf 8 months ago
what is AGI?
LordPassionFruit@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Artificial General Intelligence
Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 8 months ago
Adjusted Gross Income.