Submitted 10 months ago by Xatolos@reddthat.com to technology@lemmy.world
For me it’s not the fact that they slowed iPhones down, since there was a reason for it. It’s the fact that they didn’t tell people they were doing it, and that they didn’t give people the option to disable throttling.
If they’d added an option in battery settings with an explanation of what it was for, then it would’ve avoided all of this.
But that would mean the user has control. Can’t do that with apple products. It’s against their laws
Looking for this comment. Transparency on this would’ve added to their credibility. It was reasonable, and could’ve been a distinguishing function to give to people.
Since Batterygate, has this behavior actually ended with phone manufacturers, have they resorted to sneakier means, or is it basically as bad as before? Like the way the EU tried to stop Microsoft’s monopolistic behavior with Internet Explorer, but these days Google is basically Microsoft but worse.
My wife’s pixel 3a became so slow to the point of being useless. I tried to restore it but it was still very slow. It started happening after a software update after the pixel 5 came out 🤷
I’ve got an old Thinkpad that works great. I’m guessing if I ever connect it to the Internet again it’ll mysteriously brick
I and a friend of mine also experienced this. I believen it started after the “final” update but Theres no way to know. Needless to say i wont every buy or recommend a google device ever again.
Custom ROMs on the 3a still perform quite well. There is also a WIP mainline Linux port for the 3a that will hopefully extend the life of it for many more years to come.
No, it will never go away because it's a legitimately good feature that was introduced in order to extend the useful life of older devices with degraded batteries. Old batteries can't always consistently deliver the same power as newer batteries. Before "Batterygate" your phone would just shut itself off in the middle of whatever you were doing. That's the baseline experience. To prevent this, Apple developed a software update to, when and to the extend needed, dynamically throttle power demand in order to stay within the limits of the battery. On a full charge at room temperature, even a degraded battery may still be able to support full unthrottled performance, but if it gets too hot, or if your battery is low, it might not. Even then you may still be able to do stuff without any throttling, but if you do something that requires a spike in power consumption, it might need to be temporarily throttled then, through some combination of slightly slower performance (often not even noticeable) or a slightly dimmed screen. The more degraded your battery gets, the more it will need to throttle.
There are no scenarios where a sudden shutdown is actually preferable to throttling. This was a pro-consumer move that make old iPhones more usefull. It's a shame that Apple was bullied into adding the ability to disable the throttling feature.
making phones with replaceable batteries seems like a much better idea to me.
As someone else mentioned, while there are legitimate reasons for this, Apple didn’t tell users about it or give people any option over it. If they had been open about doing it or gave some option in the battery menu to disable it there would be nothing to complain about. But secretly slowing down older devices was obviously going to be controversial when people figured it out.
Not sure why you’re downvoted, other than possible the sentiment that people wish they had been at least told about it.
Would you prefer your phone works more slowly as your battery drains, or just fucking shuts off at 15%?
All phones do this and for good reason.
If it’s known that the phone will shut off at 15%, the battery gauge should show 0% when it gets to 15%.
I’m not sure why the entire phone experience needs to be slowed down by some percent for every phone of a particular model.
If your phone gets significantly slower, then it’s still a thing.
On my Motorola Edge 30 its still as fast as when I bought it a few years back. That’s now it’s supposed to be.
That’s a phone with 8GB of RAM that came out two years ago. Of course it will still feel snappy. Apple agreed to a settlement in 2020 about the iPhone 6s, which came out in 2014, at the time, a 6 year old device. If your phone doesn’t feel snappy in four years then it’s the same playing field
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Apple has begun making payments in a long-running class action lawsuit over claims it deliberately slowed down certain iPhones in the US.
Apple agreed to settle the lawsuit in 2020, stating at the time it denied any wrongdoing but was concerned with the cost of continuing litigation.
The US case dates back to December 2017, when Apple confirmed a long-held suspicion among phone owners by admitting it had deliberately slowed down some iPhones as they got older.
But it was accused of throttling the performance of certain iPhones without telling its customers, and the uproar resulted in Apple offering a cut-price battery replacement to fix the problem.
Mr Gutmann told the BBC he was pleased to hear about payments being made in the US, but warned it does not have any bearing on the UK case.
He said Apple was “fighting tooth and nail” against the UK class action, which will next appear at the Court of Appeal who will consider a call from the firm to halt the case.
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Hey, I’ve seen this one before
Is this the one where people were suing apple because batteries in old phones weren’t lasting long enough? So in response, apple started throttling older phones CPU’s… to make the batteries last longer… then got sued for that as well?
Apple ain’t perfect, and I say that as a total sheep who would buy a rock if they made one.
But I feels like most cases against them are just people saying “hey apple has money… AAHH UUUMMMM your phone is too big for my hands to hold and that’s discrimination!gib money now!”
allow me to rebut:
It feels like in most cases Apple is saying "I can do whatever the fuck I want and you won't remember a goddamn thing", like the lovely lady in that movie Memento.
Apple had a new phone out, they pushed a software update to slow down the old phones, and didn't tell anyone they did it: end of story. I remember the very day this happened, no word of a lie. For it to take this goddamn long to actually be financially accountable for doing this is a crime unto itself.
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Sure, Apple is unlike every other major tech company today. Apple cares about the user experience more than upgrades. Believable.
c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 10 months ago
It’s amazing how many people genuinely believe that around here, for a FOSS community there’s a lot of Apple fuccbois.
bandwidthcrisis@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I remember “Find my iPhone” just stopped working on older iPods at one point, when it had been fully functional before.