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https://www.theverge.com/2023/12/22/24012862/bluesky-posts-visible-not-logged-in-new-logo
Bluesky posts are finally open to the public::Bluesky remains an invite-only decentralized Twitter alternative, but now, you don’t need to be logged in to be able to see posts on the platform. The app has a new logo, too.
Can someone explain to me how Bluesky is different than Mastodon and if it’s not different why they bothered creating it when Mastodon exists? I truly don’t get it.
less confusing to sign up and use, nice clean looking app, same look and feel as the OG twitter
You could build all that on top of Mastodon too though. E.g mozilla.social uses Firefox accounts to sign in and the Elk theme.
Original Twitter had a shit app, that was always the case too people used third party apps which became a cause for the exodus when that Twat stopped them working.
Mostly just the protocol. Mastodon uses ActivityPub. Bluesky uses some other shit.
Atprotocol.
Mastodon and activitypub is very much like social media implemented trading public email lists implemented in HTTP (push massages between servers).
Bluesky uses content addressing (think magnet links for torrents, but for linking to post data) and pull mechanism with notifications, plus public shared archive nodes (CDN-like servers).
The main difference is that you’re much more independent of individual servers and can easily move your account around, since your account ID is tied to a cryptographic key belonging to your account which you bring with you along with your post archive, and your handle can be based on a domain name you own (also works as a verification mechanism you don’t have to pay extra for).
It has a data salad which has the benefit of making it marginally easier to migrate accounts and also makes it much more resource intensive and unsafe.
Now everyone can see how shit it is.
Still better than Threads
That’s not a very high bar to exceed
its kind of crazy to me how many people are moving over to that place. on one hand i appreciate that it’s somewhat containing twitter culture protecting much better new socials like cohost but on the other, it is frustrating to have no access to so many people who switched to blue sky’s with its bizarre and abrubt popularity as an alternative platform despite being diet fediverse.
They’re planning to open up public federation this year
Seems like everyone and their mother has a code they’re willing to share in this thread, at least.
i was offered one but im not really interested in making an account unless i can do it on a different instance. i do not trust the official one a single bit, lol
I got my “early” invite code a couple weeks ago and it was pretty cool finding accounts I’d previously followed on Twitter… and seeing how they haven’t posted in months
Yeah but note by “public” they really mean “if the post doesn’t require you to login”. They recently implemented a feature that lets users choose for their posts to be “public” but still require a login to see it.
The API is pretty much fully open, look up the firehose api for bluesky. This change just allows easy linking
I hope Mastodon implements a feature like that. That and account locking a la Twitter, or at least the ability to update a post’s visibility after creation.)
(Inb4 “but federation” etc: it’s better than nothing.)
Hope you like furries and dicks
You have my attention
👀 Anybody got a Bluesky invite?
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Sounds better than Twitter
Why are people here, on this federated platform, excited for a centralized twitter clone that will eventually, inevitably, succumb to the same fate?
A billionaire proof social network run by a billionaire. Federated only with itself. Has a .xyz domain name.
I feel like I’m living in an episode of Silicon Valley.
Jack isn’t involved anymore iirc. He got bullied off the platform & now just does his thing on whatever Nostr is
I wonder why they keep their platform so closed off. It’ll never ever go anywhere if people can’t even use it.
All it has to do is copy Twitter when it was good some years ago, and do it very reliably. That’s it.
Because the moderation tools aren’t ready for opening it up fully. You can already clone the code and run your own servers
tbh they are too late at this point. they could have came in early when their invites were a hot thing or when threads opened up.
I wonder why they keep their platform so closed off.
Pretty normal for any kind of new software.
I got my invite and quickly deleted it when I found out that everyone there loved James Gunn and came at me for pointing out he can’t be the flagship celebe to advertise the platform. My notifications blew up for days. It wasn’t worth sticking around getting harassed when I’m not the bad person!
Deleted mine. Nothing ever happened then the big news was some guy from Lockheed Martin was being a sex pest towards women by getting them to pity him, starting to think bluesky doesn’t attract the best people
The public feed is 99% naked furries and you have to click their profile to see more naked furries to mute them. No thanks.
What do y’all think we can learn or adapt from Bluesky’s protocol(s)/innovations?
Invite codes for so instances dont have to be approval only it can be approval and invite
Subdomain based usernames instead of two @‘s like @nix.merv.news as my username so every OS doesnt think its an email when clicking. Plus its easier because I can just share nix.merv.news and people can just click it and go to it.
Being able to change your @ without losing your posts. Being able to keep your followers if your instance goes down
To do better.
What do you think they did wrong?
oh good
First time I’m seeing what it looks like. Looks exactly like Twitter.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
If you want to prevent people who aren’t logged in from seeing your posts, you can “discourage” that by clicking a toggle in settings.
But Bluesky notes that “other apps may not honor this request” and that the toggle doesn’t make your account private.
Previously, the app’s logo was a blue sky with clouds, but “early on, we noticed that people were organically using the butterfly emoji 🦋 to indicate their Bluesky handles,” Graber says in the blog post.
And, as spotted by my colleague Parker Ortolani, the app has a fun animation that will feel familiar to fans of Twitter.
With the increasing momentum behind ActivityPub — including the very public support from Meta’s Threads — I’ve worried that Bluesky, which is based on its own AT Protocol, might get left behind.
But every time I hop over to my Bluesky account, it seems like people are having a lot of fun — the platform seems to be growing quickly, too — so hopefully the protocols can co-exist and usher in a fediverse future.
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Boooo!
I got an invite, the first person I see as a reply after workout gets it
I’ll take it
ill dm i to you, it say a got another one, so the next person to reply to THIS gets that one.
I deleted my account there. I honestly didn’t get it. Lots of cult or personality posters who are desperate to be influencers. It’s exactly like Twitter except with tons of furries.
No edit post, no deal.
I got two invites if someone wants them
I’d give it a try if you still have one
Why not?
It some ways it’s better than mastodon. Easier to start than mastodon. Less variety than mastodon though. Give it a shot if you get the chance, not too bad.
Im curious to check it out in case anyone wants to DM me an invite code.
Who cares? Just use Twitter. Anyone who is anyone is on twitter.
…there are no “good” billionaires. You can’t be a billionaire being a good, decent person. End of the story.
Wow, it loads almost as slowly as twitter.
Oh wow celebrities on the internet!?!?! no thanks
SomeGuy69@lemmy.world 11 months ago
They missed their chances. When I got the invite a few weeks ago, I did no longer care, because I already switched to Lemmy. There’s no place for Bluesky anymore, they missed the Twitter exodus and the Reddit one. They should’ve send my code years ago but didn’t. Such a fail of a company.
ugjka@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I deleted my Bluesky account because no one who i invited used it. And bluesky invites are not even hot anymore, the last time i posted a bunch online no one grabbed them.
Mastodon and Lemmy fills my void enough i don’t need extra places to go
Patch@feddit.uk 11 months ago
I only got on Bluesky a couple of months ago after a long wait, and honestly I don’t think I’ve been on there once since setting up the account. A trickle of my Twitter contacts seemed to move over there in the early days but the trickle dried up and it doesn’t look like many people are on there.
I hope it still finds a niche for itself, but the ridiculous invite rationing thing really does seem to have killed the momentum for them.
I’ve also lost interest in Mastodon, although again I’m willing to give it another go if it continues to grow. Mostly I’ve just found that I don’t really need to replace Twitter in my life; I’m just fine without it…
voxelastronaut@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Sounds like someone’s upset they weren’t invited earlier lol.
Yoz@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Lol
momo@lemmy.sdf.org 11 months ago
I got the email a couple of days ago. I got halfway excited, I went to install the app, I got distracted, and I haven’t been back to it. Back when I put in the application I was genuinely wanting to check it out but it seems like now there’s enough on offer that network effects are going to kill it whatever they do.