Changing Operating Systems is obviously impossible, toss em all in the trash…
Microsoft ending support for Windows 10 could send 240 million PCs to landfills: Report - CNA
Submitted 11 months ago by fne8w2ah@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
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Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
NoRodent@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I have a perfectly functioning PC (that will very likely be still perfectly usable by 2025) that cannot be upgraded to Win 11 because MS has for some strange reason put quite harsh but completely artificial hardware requirements on W11 that only CPUs manufactured in the last 3-4 years meet. And before you say “You can install Linux”, no I can’t. Not with the software I use for work. And then there’s gaming of course…
(Now, I bought a new PC recently, so I’m fine for the foreseeable future but not everyone can either afford it or simply feels the need to upgrade their computer)
Dumbkid@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 months ago
All the limitations can be bypassed easily, if you use Rufus (the program) and a windows 11 iso to make the usb installer it asks to disable telemetry and tpm requirements when you make the usb.
Source: running windows 11 on my old overclocked intel x5690 since the betas came out
mycus@kbin.social 11 months ago
there is virtualization so you can run windows on it and work with those pesky proprietary softwares, but yeah performance will never be better than running things directly (except games with shitty directx implementation that run better with dxvk, ie sekiro, elden ring), albeit it can get really close. If you're into tinkering, this will not be a problem.
on that topic, I was considering giving cassowary a try since my partner uses some windows only software too, looked promising.
then there is the game problem, but really, unless you play something that uses anticheat that doesn't support proton, you're good to go.
I've been gaming on it for over three years now.
PrivateNoob@sopuli.xyz 11 months ago
Win 10 Iot saves your day, for now…
It’s supported until 2032
drasticpotatoes@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 months ago
Make sure to leave all your passwords and personal data on them as well.
ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 11 months ago
For your average and below user, it wasn’t part of the deal on purchase.
thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 11 months ago
it’s about the hardware requirements. most Windows 10 machines CAN’T be upgraded.
Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
CAN’T be upgraded
*to windows 11.
There’s lots of OSs out there. Plenty will just keep using win 10, others will move to various flavors of linux, and others still will continue to stick with win 7/XP as they always have. (yes, I know people still actively using XP)
Windows 10 no longer receiving updates doesn’t make those computer’s cease to function. Hell some even consider the lack of updates a great new feature.
DontTreadOnBigfoot@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Well, a lot of them can, but it’s a much bigger PITA than if the machine has the “required” specs.
Noerttipertti@sopuli.xyz 11 months ago
Setup.exe /product server ;) Not a magic bullet, but helps in many cases. You have to use older ISO, thou.
ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 11 months ago
Many will, but most people will not. The average user barely knows Linux even exists as an option, let alone wants to learn something new.
It’s all moot for now. Microsoft will end up extending out security updates for 10. They’ll just wait until the deadline is closer before they announce it.
NegentropicBoy@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Linux to the rescue!
Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
Meanwhile, Apple’s refusal to support computers only three years old has been far, far worse for the environment.
Snowpix@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
Neither are good prospects… being wasteful has become completely ingrained in North American society
mrgalaxy@lemmy.world 11 months ago
LMAO what? MacOS supports computers sold since 2017. support.apple.com/en-us/102861
Kbobabob@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Microsoft has already announced it will offer extended security updates for Windows 10 to 2028.
Vqhm@lemmy.world 11 months ago
ESU is a paid service for enterprise. They didn’t even offer ESU for windows 7 home at all for any price.
Windows 7 pro ESU per device cost $50 for 1 year, $100 for the next year, $200 for the final year.
Windows 7 enterprise was per device 1 year $25, second year $50, and 3rd year $100.
Micro$oft is not going to give win10 ESU away for free and they probably won’t supported home edition.
You can however bypass the win11 hardware checks to upgrade unsupported devices.
Allero@lemmy.today 11 months ago
Those are available for corporate users and cost a lot of money
Brkdncr@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Big Landfill once again pulling the invisible strings.
Lmaydev@programming.dev 11 months ago
XP is still used in a surprising amount of places so I doubt it.
someguy3@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Consumers will just keep going. But businesses which actually care about security? Yeah it might be a lot. I wonder if they will just toss them or if they’ll actually donate them.
Noerttipertti@sopuli.xyz 11 months ago
Many companies I work with either sell their old workstations for pittance to their employees after we have nuked the drives or donate them to projects that provide laptops to students or refugees who can’t afford them.
But many companies lease their hardware nowadays, so those end up to landfill or to companies that refurb them and sell them for profit.
jmp242@sopuli.xyz 11 months ago
Well, this is horrible. And all the Windows 11 requirements are just arbitrary from what I can tell.
EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 11 months ago
I really doubt an average Joe would buy a new computer once the old OS goes end-of-life. Joe would just continue using an EOL system and hope everything is alright.
kennebel@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I’m sure average Joe doesn’t even know what EOL means, or knows when it happens. :)
Arthur_Leywin@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Yeah Elastic Orange Llamas will be difficult to deal with but I think Joe can manage.
tpihkal@lemmy.world 11 months ago
*ELO it was a band.
doppelgangmember@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Yeah we’re fucked :)
I liked the suggestion to throw Linux on all of the “losses”
moonburster@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Software updates will stop and render the possibility of an unsafe system more and more over time. Since there are no updates, if a backdoor is found it won’t be patched.
Besides that you’ll probably be able to use it for a few more years as long as your apps still work
Cannibal_MoshpitV3@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Having worked in tech fields, legacy devices as old as 20 years can pop up occasionally, functioning or not. Once was told a story where this tech was hired to fix a highschool bell system and the whole thing was running on windows 98.
vrek@programming.dev 11 months ago
I work in a field that is considered by many high tech. I have personally seen a system in use today that duel boots windows 2000 and windows 98.
The product it’s used by is old generations and the system does not have any network access but still must be supported by government regulation for several more years…
tpihkal@lemmy.world 11 months ago
The company I work for has no control over the air conditioning in one of our facilities because it’s automated and running on a computer system from the 80’s. No one knows how it works.
Snowpix@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
The restaurant I work at still uses Windows XP on one of its main tills. It breaks down and freezes constantly.
Noerttipertti@sopuli.xyz 11 months ago
I still do monthly service checks to industrial computers that use win3.11, 2000 and unix from early 90’s. When machines that costs even up to million to replace require legacy os, you scrounge up older hardware to run them as long as you can.