Submitted 1 year ago by r3df0x@7.62x54r.ru to technology@lemmy.world
I found Firefish which is a better alternative to the standard Mastodon application. It’s compatible with Mastodon and has better features. It allows users to create web pages and the character limit is 3,000 instead of the 500 on Mastodon. It feels like a good limit for the type of site that it is. Plus this means that it can handle long posts from users on customized Mastodon instances.
I didn’t enjoy firefish, it was buggy and seemed to have a lot of gatekeeping.
Agreed, I much prefer Mastodon over firefish. Firefish handles hashtags really strangely and (at least at the time I tried) wouldn’t allow you to even have followed hashtags show up in your timeline.
wouldn’t allow you to even have followed hashtags show up in your timeline
Well, that would be because following hashtags isn’t a feature of Firefish. Antannae are a fundamentally different thing - they’re saved searches.
What do you mean by gatekeeping?
I noticed that the interface seemed a bit slow. I toggled and option to reduce animations so hopefully that improves things.
How does software have gatekeeping? Does a dialog box pop up and say “I’m sorry, you are not cool enough to use this app”?
Yes, I agree. Firefish has a vastly better UI and I like it alot. The UX right now though is not so good. I will stick to it for the time being as it shows a lot of promise. In the long run though I will have to move away eventually if they are not able to improve the performance issues.
if I recall, Mastodon actually lets you change the character limit per-instance.
That being said, nice to see some love for Firefish here.
Unless they recently changed things, the creator said specifically that he isn’t going to add the character limit as an option. I can understand that since sometimes you need to restrict certain features based on the goal of the project. I think it would be fine because I don’t think it will turn into Medium since the interface isn’t really set up for that.
I'd love to know where that setting is. As far as I've been able to see, I'd have to rebuild mastodon myself to be able to do that, and that's just less convenient for me than pulling the default docker images
I might be thinking about glitch-soc, which is a fork of Mastodon with extra features, some people have been asking for.
Wish they had a native app. The misskey clients make my phone itch
Fan of firefish but I will say the main, most popular instance (firefish.social) has been buggy for me for months. Often my feed/notifications won't load, or I have trouble replying to comments. Or I can't react to posts or open up fediverse posts. Real dealbreakers.
I'm going to try a different instance but otherwise I will likely move my acct to Mastodon.
I like firefish but the lack of an official app has been painful.
The instance I use has a character limit of 1000
Comparable how? Need some ideas and facts on the assertion.
Well, they’re both microblogging platforms that use ActivityPub to communicate with other websites.
But I’d assume Mastodon has way more users, so probably not “comparable” exactly.
I recently moved from mastodon to firefish because of the “better” features, but I’ve been pretty disappointed so far. I don’t know how much of this is just the instance I’m on, but its actually missing some of the features I like the most about mastodon.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I can’t seem to mute/block instances, just users. I also can’t keep personal notes on a user’s profile (I loved this feature on my mastodon instance, I think every platform should have it). It’s nice being able to mute users for specific lengths of time, but less nice that I can’t choose to mute them on my timeline without muting them in my notifications. I also seem to have less control over my filters - on mastodon I could make a filter, provide a list of key words and hastags for it, and then have separate settings on which parts they applied to - whether it should also filter out replies to posts, or hide people’s profiles that mention them. iirc the only option I have on firefish is to make the filtered posts disappear completely or hide them behind a warning. These are the ones that affect me the most but I’ve also seen people mention that they can’t follow hashtags. I never did this but it seems like the people that did really appreciated it, so a bit of a bummer there too.
I don’t really want to migrate again, but if I did I would move back to mastodon rather than another firefish instance. It doesn’t “have better features”, they’re just a different set of features. If those are valuable to you, then great! Unfortunately I don’t care anywhere near as much about the features firefish added compared to the ones I lost.
I’m so tired of “technology” meaning “social media”
a social media platform is a technology
stones are a technology if used properly as well.
Okay, I’m gonna bite. Why would they create a new one instead of working toward improving Mastodon?
Firefish is a fork of Misskey which predates Mastodon by 2 years. As for why one would fork Misskey into Firefish or make Mastodon, some of the rationale for that is explained in the Fork a repo page by GitHub.
You can ask the developer of Mastodon personally why he didn’t just make Misskey better, or the lead developer of Firefish why they didn’t just contribute to Misskey or Mastodon, but fundamentally the platforms are very different even if they’re inter-operable, and this comes down to the actual design of the platforms.
I think that’s good to be aware of. The Wikipedia article mentioned that the APIs are not compatible. As long is the interoperability is good I think it works well enough.
The creator of Mastodon said that he isn’t going to add an option to set post length limits. I briefly tried to change it and wasn’t able to make it work.
It’s not configurable through the UI, but if you’re the admin of an instance you can change the character limit with some fairly simple source code tweaksm
firefish is rebranded calckey, a misskey fork > project has been in trouble since, hmmm, may 2023 > the *keys offer a very different interface, emoji reactions and lots of other features which mastodon does not have > *keys ui is pretty nice compared to mastodon - in the end, this is a matter of taste > but other than that, particularly firefish and its forks do not scale well: there is a reason why former firefish.social admin atomicpoet chose to migrate to another instance, though atomicpoet's post tries to hide the reasons for moving > note: firefish.social is a special case - this instance is a lost cause with outages beyond comparison > instead of building up a community at firefish.social, the admins effectively destroyed the community by introducing new experimental features instead of focusing on stability
since you are on a lemmy instance: be aware that people on the *keys cannot interact with lemmy instances
i picked the incorrect fediverse app but it’s too late now to switch over to firefish
Mastodon is a alternative of twitter and am no more ready to switch from mastodon.
Merulox@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Worth mentioning that firefish is a fork of misskey
r3df0x@7.62x54r.ru 1 year ago
Is there anything wrong with it?
natsume_shokogami@lemmy.world 1 year ago
There are, actually. Since Misskey’s culture are different from Mastodon’s, they have been implementing more features than Mastodon from the start, and Misskey’s APIs are different from Mastodon’s so there will be many weird quirks when accessing Mastodon (even weirder if it’s a Mastodon fork such as Glitch-soc, Hometown, Fedibird,… since they use older Mastodon versions as base) instances from Misskey instances (though Firefish devs are improving this by implementing Mastodon APIs and several Mastodon features). Also note that Misskey caters more Japanese users more than Mastodon, people who aren’t familiar with Japanese culture may also even Misskey userbase and features odd and different as well