When I get helper functions from stack overflow or similar, I normally add a comment with a link to the article mostly for my own sake so if there’s any problems later I can re-read the article to get more info, or use it to try and find other solutions.
Who came first, the programmer or the code?
Submitted 1 year ago by alphacyberranger@lemmy.world to programmer_humor@programming.dev
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BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
6xpipe_@lemmy.world 1 year ago
You’re supposed to do that anyway. Code on SO is licensed as CC BY-SA, which requires attribution.
Johanno@feddit.de 1 year ago
I used to do that on complete copy and paste parts.
Now we aren’t allowed to do so. If stackoverflow.com is used you have to adjust the answer so that in court your code will not be a copy. They are afraid of users licenseing their code afterward.
rambaroo@lemmy.world 1 year ago
For JS shit I usually have to rewrite them because they aren’t production quality in terms of readability. Still really useful for getting answers on obscure stuff
BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
The quality is definitely varying, the hardest part is to find a example that fits what you expect, or looks like it can be refactored into what you need.
visor841@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Plagiarism isn’t just using someone else’s work. It’s when you use someone else’s work and claim it was your own. The programmers aren’t plagiarizing as they’re being freely admitting it’s not their work.
JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 year ago
If you’ve ever copied and pasted code from StackOverflow without mentioning the author, linking the creative commons license, and linking to the author’s account you’ve technically violated the creative commons license and I’d argue you’ve technically plagiarized.
Does anyone care? No, not really.
jeff@programming.dev 1 year ago
Just don’t tell your Legal department.
Still@programming.dev 1 year ago
well using someone’s code properly licensed isn’t plagiarism
a fair few of my uni classes were like take this guys code and make it do this, which were like 4 lines changes
rtxn@lemmy.world 1 year ago
“Here’s this header file that implements 99% of the mathematics, because I’m not paid to teach mathematics.”
Ironically I learned a lot more about linear algebra from that header file than my actual teacher.
intelati@programming.dev 1 year ago
I just saw a “faster linear algebra” package scroll by on pacman. I almost pulled up the source/documentation.
The only thing that stopped me was that I have about 199 things more relevant to my usage than linear algebra.
ItsMeForRealNow@lemmy.world 1 year ago
It’s almost as if we all work better when working together.
unreachable@lemmy.world 1 year ago
corporates: “what plagiarism?”
quicken@aussie.zone 1 year ago
Talk to the lawyers
azurefirefly@lemmy.basedcount.com 1 year ago
It’s called importing not plageriusm
CodexArcanum@lemmy.world 1 year ago
All code already exists in Plato’s world of perfect abstractions. Programmers merely view this ideal world darkly and scribble what imperfect algorithms they can vaguely remember.
name_NULL111653@pawb.social 1 year ago
Stackoverflow is platonism for the masses, a means by which to copy perfect code from “programmers.”
The “other programmers” are dead. There is no perfect algorithm. And so we must become programmers unto ourselves…
vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 year ago
I have a suspicion that the reason universities crack down on plagiarism this hard (to the point of outright making up offenses like ‘self plagiarism’), is that it’s the only form scientific misconduct that is easy to prove and investigate.
If you are wondering if it’s true, just look at how long it took for Hendrik Schon to get caught. And even then, the smoking gun was reusing (fake) graphs in a publication.
notabot@lemm.ee 1 year ago
They crack down on plagerism because they’re trying to teach and assess you, not whoever you copied from. If they wanted copied answers, they could just photocopy the answers for you and save everyone a lot of effort.
The real world may be different, but the idea is to get the knowledge and, more importantly, the way of thinking about your particular subject, into your head. Once you know that, you know what to copy.
vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 year ago
I was trying to make a larger point about the concept of plagiarism as a form of scientific misconduct. In a teaching setting you are just perpetrating exam fraud and should get nailed to the wall.
llama@midwest.social 1 year ago
Public domain? Creative commons? MIT? BSD? GPL? You mean I’m allowed to use these things without failing?
Rheios@ttrpg.network 1 year ago
Unless there’s a bug. Then it is my code and I have to fix it. Immediately. No, I don’t want to discuss my thought process for “why I made that decision” I want to fix it. Why are we having a chat about milk pouring technique while it is dripping off the fucking table. Prod is burning and you want to fiddle! (Meanwhile this is a minor bug that nobody has ever actually complained about but just the knowledge that it was my fault…)
unreachable@lemmy.world 1 year ago
WhiteHotaru@feddit.de 1 year ago
It is called a programming language. I guess repeating some sentences or even the idea for a story is normal when you write a book or code a program.
FleetingTit@feddit.de 1 year ago
There are also a lot of recurring problems, obscure bugs, performance enhancements that someone has already solved. Software development should care about completing a task, not inventing the wheel (or an image upload) the millionth time.
AeonFelis@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I’m sorry that you have to deal with my code.
cybersandwich@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Collaboration* or using best-practices*
IamRoot@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
I use dark mode for a reason. FU.
Surreal@programming.dev 1 year ago
It’s often the lawyer and the corp who care about suing than the programmers
damnthefilibuster@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Yes, because till University, you’re trying to learn something new. And the best way to learn is by doing.
At work, all you’re trying to do is save money (for the corporation). Best way to do that is to reuse, recycle.
Clent@lemmy.world 1 year ago
It’s more complex than that.
In the real world we’re not all working on the same assignment…even if it feels like it sometimes.