Let me say this for everyone who is caught up on this bullshit term.
Making a firearm is %100 legal. It’s never been illegal and the only reason they’re going for printer is because they want to control you.
New York's 3D printer law is NOT gun control; it's just.... control.
Submitted 3 weeks ago by jballs@sh.itjust.works to 3dprinting@lemmy.world
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SupraMario@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
trackball_fetish@lemmy.wtf 2 weeks ago
As someone who dislikes plastic (CNC/milling) I absolutely agree, its a witch hunt
SupraMario@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Yep, it’s bullshit. You’re CNC/milling machine can actually make a firearm, a 3d printer cannon print a full firearm and requires outside and metal parts.
rossman@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Always an overreach. Had a convo with teacher and they don’t even have a plan if someone comes to school with a weapon. Instead they want mass surveillance and have everyone just report on each other.
They want to take the capitalist approach and not fix the current system.
iocase@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Also this is like mandating printers that can’t print pictures of dicks
backalleycoyote@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
If they think making printers incapable of printing dicks, they’re going to be sorely disappointed when I show them what you can do with a photocopier.
melsaskca@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
In Canada you can buy beer or make your own beer. Should that logic be extended to guns?
Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
Always has been. You are completely within your rights to make a firearm in the US unless you’re a felon or other restricted condition.
I’m pretty sure I recently read that it’s legal to distill our own spirits again too.
jballs@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
This video perfectly summed up a lot of my thoughts from this post yesterday talking about a similar law in California.
FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Fun fact, you don’t need a 3d printer to make ghost guns, and you’ve never needed them.
Laws restricting printers aren’t about firearms, it’s about restricting access to disruptive technology before it disrupts too much of how we innovate. (Because innovation has historically been tied to big-industry with the little guy being unable to get into it. Because it costs a shit ton.)
artyom@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
Yep you can make a zip gun with a couple pieces of pipe and a nail.
sylver_dragon@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
You can buy resin molds for the AR-15 lower, which is the regulated part. Then just buy all of the non-regulated parts retail and assemble a “ghost gun”. There’s also things like the FGC-9 which is mostly printed parts. And the Luty SMG if you’re skilled enough.
This genie is so far out of the bottle, it’s lapped the regulators and is going around again.
tacosanonymous@mander.xyz 3 weeks ago
I honestly think those are better than the printed plastic versions in every use case except one.
CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Based on those ‘how it was invented’ shows, innovations has historically been tied to random passionate people in sheds who then get exploited or even straight up robbed by big industry.
Flax_vert@feddit.uk 3 weeks ago
Didn’t some kid make a nuclear reactor in a shed
FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Yup.
But they want to control the pipeline all the same.
It would be awesome for a bunch of woodworkers to carve some ghost guns to show how stupid this is. Printing can’t be that much stronger than oak, so it should work.
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
It should be totally possible to whittle a functional AR-15 lower. Especially if you wanted to mate it to one of those fancy new bufferless uppers, so you wouldn’t even have to worry about the stock and buffer tube.
FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
part of the problem with that is that most of your ghost guns are “just” the AR 15 lower receiver- the part classified as the “firearm” because of some technicality only a lawyer can understand.
It’s not a load bearing, nor is it exposed to any particularly high levels of heat, nor any sort of particularly nasty gasses. So that can be printed in just about anything if the printer’s resolution is good enough. (IIRC, they typically call for resin printers.)
Then, the ghost gun peeps just buy the rest of the components retail and pay cash.
for fully-printed firearms, you’re looking at things like DMLS or other kinds of precision metalwork. It’s the kind of work that would be more expensive than roadtripping to arizona and getting loophole-gun.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
people have been making zip guns for over 100 years.
Carmakazi@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
No I think they are definitely about firearms and how they don’t want people printing untraceable Glocks and suppressors and assassinating Our Betters in broad daylight with them.
FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Don’t need a printer to do any of that. it’s also faster just to drive to a state that allows gunshow loopholes and buy an otherwise untraceable firearm. takes less skill, too.