I’d say Amazon and then FedEx, but I’m cool with unionizing Tesla
Tesla is the next biggest union target in the United States. Sorry, Elon Musk
Submitted 1 year ago by psychothumbs@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/sep/21/auto-strike-elon-musk-tesla
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TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Telodzrum@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Tesla is the best target because of optics and (more so) the presence of an already-existing very strong union in the space. UPS has its union and they could reasonably easily move into FedEx shops, but it’s not the scale or power of the UAW. And, nothing similar exists at all in Amazon’s industry. The best case for both of those comes from a policy and statutory push to implement sectorial bargaining. This also solves the even bigger issue of nonunionized retail and hospitality workers.
Im14abeer@midwest.social 1 year ago
UPS’s union is the Teamsters, and they represent twice as many employees at UPS as UAW does at the big three. The Teamsters union is an incredibly powerful union because they represent transportation and don’t cross picket lines so they can really gum up the works if they so decide.
ChrisLicht@lemm.ee 1 year ago
FedEx is being deliberately destroyed by Amazon. I would love to see it unionize, but it’s arguably not going to exist in another few years as a major player.
Unionization of Amazon delivery systems would have much more ongoing impact. Over-the-road and last-mile have to happen in the US; they can’t be off-shored.
EnderMB@lemmy.world 1 year ago
You’d be surprised at how anti-union many Amazon corp workers are, which is hilarious given how fucking shit it can be.
onionbaggage@lemmynsfw.com 1 year ago
He’ll close Tesla completely before he allows this. So win win
dangblingus@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Doubtful the rest of the Board of Directors would vote yes on that motion. He only owns like 27% of Tesla.
skyspydude1@lemmy.world 1 year ago
He’s still by and large the majority shareholder compared to anyone on the board, and they’re all basically his puppets. They’re all propped up by him and sit on the boards of his other companies, so they really can’t vote against him, lest they incur the wrath of the Musk.
Kage520@lemmy.world 1 year ago
How has the biggest name in EVs become so hated here? I get that Lemmy wants to see everyone in an apartment, but not everyone is going to migrate to the city. Is Lemmy suggesting those that stay in rural areas just keep driving gas powered cars?
Illuminostro@lemmy.world 1 year ago
In case you haven’t noticed, real auto manufacturers with decades and decades of experience have caught up. Tesla is going to get it’s lunch eaten.
Exatron@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Because all he is is a name. Over the last several years, he’s demonstrated that he’s an entitled, racist moron who confused money with actual intelligence.
luthis@lemmy.nz 1 year ago
Because he is a terrible person. Its nothing to do with evs
DrPop@lemmy.one 1 year ago
Tesla use to be the only widely recognized source for EVs. Nowadays people who buy new ones find out how poorly put together they are. There are more options available and ev charging stations are popping up even in my smaller town.
collegefurtrader@discuss.tchncs.de 1 year ago
Lemmy wants to see everyone in a free single family house that doesn’t disrupt the natural environment in any way, also it comes with free food snd free utilities, and theres no roads and no cars.
onionbaggage@lemmynsfw.com 1 year ago
Lose Elon, Gain Respect.
calavera@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Are you a Ford/GM investor by any chance?
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
He’s gonna try to fire his entire workforce.
I’m sure the NLRB will have something to say.
BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
Let him fire the whole workforce, that will set back Tesla years, they may never recover. I wish the workers the best.
hark@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Didn’t he already try that at twitter and had to backpedal? They weren’t even trying to unionize in that case.
ohlaph@lemmy.world 1 year ago
This is the way. I wish software engineers would do the same.
RickTofu@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Wow, what an interesting technology this is!
ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
The Guardian opinion page is, in fact, the most authoritative source for technology news in the world
dopeshark@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Old tech
skellener@kbin.social 1 year ago
Sounds good! 👍
autotldr@lemmings.world [bot] 1 year ago
This is the best summary I could come up with:
The current strike, the first in UAW history to target all of the big three simultaneously, is to a large degree an attempt to ensure that “shared prosperity” persists as a genuine thing in the profitable auto industry.
The fact that unionized workers have higher job satisfaction, lower turnover and a better quality of life doesn’t mean much to the balance sheet-obsessed corporate executives who sit at the bargaining table.
Tesla already pays its workers significantly less than the big three, and as long as Musk has no union to answer to, he will sit back and savor a UAW win against his competitors that widens that gap.
This is exactly what auto companies are trying to do every time they move a factory into a poor, anti-union southern state, where they can run it without any pesky interference from anyone trying to empower the people working the line.
What we cannot have, in the long term, is a situation in which the world’s richest conspiracy-addled Twitter addict uses the UAW’s gains at the Big Three as a chance to increase his market share by sticking it to his own underpaid non-union workforce.
The public, the politicians and every Tesla owner who would prefer not to be complicit in Gilded Age-style plutocratic inequality all need to lean on the big billionaire baby who can’t imagine having to share.
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silverbax@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I believe this may be one of the few times other car manufacturers would lobby thw government in favor of unions, since they see Tesla as having an unfair advantage that hurts their bottom line.
Jonna@lemmy.world 1 year ago
My experience says that they’d point at non union competition as an excuse to say no to union demands in negotiations.
5BC2E7@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Are they forming a technology union? Otherwise I think this should be in news.
Fafner@yiffit.net 1 year ago
Sorry, not sorry.
Illuminostro@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Maybe he’ll take his ball and go home.
Jaysyn@kbin.social 1 year ago
I predict Elon pulling an illegal stunt & getting busted in reaction to this.
DarkGamer@kbin.social 1 year ago
I predict him pulling an illegal stunt and getting off scot-free because he's wealthy and has aligned himself with the christofascist party that doesn't support the rule being used against its own.
Jaysyn@kbin.social 1 year ago
Reality shows that Tesla gets hit with fines & judgments all the time.
AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Oh yeah. He drinks his own Kool-aid and sees himself as some unstoppable titan, when the reality is he’s just an egotistical fancy lad.
mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 1 year ago
He is an unstoppable titan, but that’s mostly due to his propensity to constantly cheat the system.
SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I predict he fires everyone and hires people on H1B visas using a contractor.