In the spirit of shit posting: How many potatoes does it take to kill an Irishman?
None.
Submitted 20 hours ago by MTZ@lemmy.world to [deleted]
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In the spirit of shit posting: How many potatoes does it take to kill an Irishman?
None.
Eyyyyyyyyyyy
I heard that joke in middleschool in the us. It was written on my friends bullet proof vest 🙃
You’re on the board
They were oppressed and exploited to the point of famine. It’s not slavery, but it rhymes.
Not to just fall for the meme but…
Definitely over the threshold of slavery light with zero sugar
You might want do a little more research.
If I punch you in the nose and call it a kiss, the blood runs the same.
It is true that Irish people were used as slaves, it just wasn’t done at a systematic scale equivalent to the African slave trade. The abduction of people from Africa was a global industry, and the scale that it operated at created inhuman horrors that are not really comparable to anything else (except maybe present-day Xinjiang).
You’re absolutely right, the scale of the transatlantic slave trade was greater than ever before seen in human history.
Somewhere between 1 in 5 to 1 in 6 died on the journey alone.
One needs to also be aware that slavery as practiced by modern Western colonial empires was even more cruel than how slavery was practiced traditionally even dating back to antiquity.
In most of the world historically slavery was often contingent and there were several pathways to manumission (freedom). It was not an inherited status by default (partus sequiter ventrum).
The Western colonial empires very much perceived the entire world according to a race based caste system where Europeans were the highest caste and those of African descent were the lowest. Complexion defined your worth as a person. They spread this worldview globally, which has poisoned so many minds, and the world is still recovering from it to this day.
America adopted and upheld this race based caste system until the civil rights act passed in the 1960s (within the lifetimes of many of parents/grandparents). During the American era of slavery, slaves had no legal rights. They did not have personhood. Children of slaves were automatically also slaves from birth. Slaves could be grieviously injured or killed with impunity. They were seen as property, or livestock.
This is not how slavery was practiced historically around the world.
In fact, even ancient Greece and Rome (both of which thrived on slavery) had more legal protections and pathways to freedom. Slavery was not race based. In many cases, they had earnings and could eventually buy their freedom. In Rome they could be set free by an owner and become Roman citizens.
None of this is taught in American history likely because the ruling class worries it would hurt the average person’s national pride and their ability to exert control over them. But the truth is no society can improve without honestly reflecting on their past so I hope there will be some that read this and learn.
does anyone remember how the Koreans had enslavement for 2000 years that resulted in an entire caste system being developed to just maintain control of their property.
oh…just me? ok…
Listen only african slaves in the usa count. Definitely not the historic african slaves in africa and especially not the current slaves in africa or anywhere else lol
Fuck you one was to many.
One is too many, but, the in American discourse at least, the implied equivalence is used to undercut and diminish the Atlantic slave trade, which I think no one can dispute echoes much louder into our present day.
One is too many, and I don’t mean to diminish that but at least in the context of the US I would argue there is slavery, and then there is Slavery.
I want to fuck his balls off
Who is he?
Johnny Irelandland
His name is Remmick Jack O’Connell and he’s an Irish vampire Englishman.
Anyone else dislike having Irish heritage? The hatred still runs deep over here.
Take the soup already.
AlexLost@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
Black people don’t own the patent on suffering, sorry. Plenty of other races and people’s have had a bad time, often at the hands of overlords.
erin@piefed.blahaj.zone 13 hours ago
You probably mean well, but this rings of “all lives matter.” There’s nothing wrong with pointing out injustice and oppression, in isolation. The issue lies in using it as a rebuttal to the suffering of others. “The Irish were enslaved” is fine, but “white people were slaves, too,” is minimizing the vast industry of oppression that was the slave trade.
No one is claiming a patent on suffering, but you are minimizing theirs. You can acknowledge suffering without trying to draw comparisons, and especially without the strawman argument. The phrase “black people don’t own the patent on suffering, sorry” rings of resentment and snark, and isn’t at all representative of most black people’s view of human suffering. Oppressed people support each other and prop each other up. We aren’t measuring each other’s suffering or keeping score. Some of my greatest allies are people that don’t share my own personal struggle, but relate with their own, and I likewise support them (I am a queer white woman).
Pricklesthemagicfish@reddthat.com 13 hours ago
No he isn’t. Im sorry you feel that way.
AlexLost@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
That’s fair. I also failed to notice it was right out of Sinners?! I was attacking the idea without thinking of the context.
shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 9 hours ago
I don’t think anyone is arguing that on a global scale though colonial/Western powers did decimate Africa and continue to engage in neocolonialism there.
But if we’re talking about American history we need to be transparent about the fact that this was a nation that was an apartheid state until about half a century ago and the consequences of that reverberate to the present day.
Slovene85@sh.itjust.works 12 hours ago
Yeah, and which races are STILL suffering the consequences of that very recent bad time in USA?
Pricklesthemagicfish@reddthat.com 10 hours ago
The native americans or whatever the specific tribe wishes to be called. Lol