That would be great. I’ll believe it when I see it.
Chinese carmaker, BYD, introduces new battery technology with 621-mile range, 620K-mile lifespan, 5-minute charge, and lower prices
Submitted 2 months ago by Innerworld@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
https://www.fastcompany.com/91503415/byd-ev-battery-competes-with-gas-engines
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ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com 2 months ago
halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 2 months ago
The current v1 blade battery has operated in the real world about the same as their original announcement, which also was viewed with skepticism.
These aren’t research laboratory battery advancements without real world scenarios attached. These are announcements for an improved product entering production. Like a new phone being announced, not just a white paper from a lab that hasn’t been scaled.
2xar@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Also, the brand that made this product spec announcement is the biggest electric automaker in the world, by far. To stay with your comparison, it would be like if Samsung would declare that their new phone will have 100W charging and 6000mAh capacity, while the actual phones sold by them could only be charged by 50W and have 4000mAh. It is just unimaginable that they would be lying about sth that can and will be easily verified the moment the first products reach the customers or reviewers.
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 2 months ago
I will get excited once this leaves the lab and is actually on the market.
Oh, wait…
crystalmerchant@lemmy.world 2 months ago
What the fuck does 5 minute charge mean? Zero to full in 5 minutes? For that big of a battery I believe that is not physically possible
felbane@lemmy.world 2 months ago
This is one of those rare situations where reading the fucking
manualarticle helps:A standard home charger trickles power overnight at roughly 7 kilowatts, like a garden hose. A Tesla Supercharger—long considered the gold standard of public fast-charging—maxes out around 250 kilowatts. BYD is unleashing six times that amount of energy, effectively hooking the car up to a high-pressure municipal water main.
During a live demonstration onstage, BYD plugged in its new Han L sedan, making the battery jump from 10% to 80% capacity in exactly six minutes and 30 seconds.
Munkisquisher@lemmy.nz 2 months ago
The amperage to do that is insane, either you’re dumping power from town sized feeder lines (seriously limiting where you can place those chargers) or you are charging capacitors to charge the car (wasting energy and limiting how often you can charge a car at those speeds)
WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 2 months ago
What comes down to 430 miles, or about 6 hours of highway driving. It’s made for the crowd that does a road trip a few times a year and really wants to drive non stop.
ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 2 months ago
All EV batteries aren’t “a battery that size”. They’re a bunch of small batteries all strung together. The “battery that size” statement you made is pretty much meaningless.
It’s very much physically possible to charge a battery pack at mostly empty to mostly full in 5 minutes. The tech and chemical side of actually getting it done hasn’t quite officially happened yet. Battery charge\discharge rates are measured in “C”. One C is an hour for a 0 to 100% charge. So six C would be 0 to 100 in 10 minutes. That’s doable right now. You’d need 12 C for a 0 to 100% charge in 5 minutes. That has happened yet, but it’s getting pretty close. 11 C can be done to go from 0 to 80%.
Likely, BYD’s charging statement is based for the regular layman such as yourself and refers to something along the lines of a charge from 10% up to 80%.
As a side note, it’s also annoying having these “new EV battery has x amount of range” is dumb. You could get that range 20 years ago if you made the battery pack a lot bigger. What you need to know is the energy density and the size. Like 400 WH per kilogram is currently a really good capacity. Double what you could get from like five years ago.
vext01@feddit.uk 2 months ago
Another question: is how many charge / discharge cycles are possible?
Usually the faster you charge a cell, the fewer times you can do so.
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 2 months ago
Which part of physics prevents that exactly?
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 months ago
The main problem is having a charger with enough power to fill the battery that fast. But it’s more of an infrastructure problem.
oranges_in_my_a55@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Assuming electrochemical, thermal inefficiencies?
luthis@lemmy.nz 2 months ago
I’ll be very impressed. I’ll even buy one if the claims are true
xenomor@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Are you in the US? Because if you are, they’ll never let you buy or import one.
winkerjadams@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
Freeeeeeedommmmmmmmm
luthis@lemmy.nz 2 months ago
I’m so glad I’m not.
Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 2 months ago
Sure.
poke@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Sounds similar to the battery donut labs claims to have made.
solrize@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
No the battery is LFP, fairly conventional. The new thing is the super powerful charger and the cooling system.
Dindonmasker@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
The cooling system needs as much energy as what’s been put in the battery XD
macaw_dean_settle@lemmy.world 1 month ago
*doughnut, not do nut.
poke@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
Nope, www.donutlab.com
HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
Ya ya Time will tell
umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 month ago
that’s actually huge if true.
bitchkat@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I didn’t see any mention of which standard was used to calculate range so I’m assuming CLTC.
AlecSadler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
There’s a reason you can’t import BYD to the US.
amorangi@lemmy.nz 2 months ago
Because Tesla bribed some 100% tariffs?
ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 2 months ago
Faaaar from just Tesla.
HumbleBragger@piefed.social 2 months ago
Is that true? I didn’t know that! Here in my country BYD seems to be selling really well. I see them all the time while driving.
Zomg@piefed.world 2 months ago
Yes. It’s been a long standing thing that imported cars have been married or otherwise taxed to some extent so that American cars can be competitive.
BoJackHorseman@lemmy.today 2 months ago
Yeah that’s the reason
Squizzy@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Yanks need safe spaces
green_goglin@thelemmy.club 1 month ago
Same reason Trump is livid about the new Canada bridge into the US (in Detroit nonetheless). They’re about to start showing up en masse via Canada’s new trade deal with China.
Luffy879@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
You mean Mr. Orange Toilet unclogger?