Oh look, American tech is just to completely implode all at once, neat.
RAM shortage chaos expands to GPUs, high-capacity SSDs, and even hard drives
Submitted 2 weeks ago by themachinestops@lemmy.dbzer0.com to technology@lemmy.world
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UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
Rothe@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
So far they are sustaining each other in a giant circle jerk of investments. It is only going to implode when they run out of money, and the problem is they have a mindbogglingly huge amount of money.
XLE@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
Call me cynical, but I believe that companies might be happy keeping the prices high if it means they can shuffle consumers onto computers as a service. Maybe wasted silicon will end up being good for business.
sns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
That is the perfect metaphor for the current situation!
ramble81@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
American? This shit is happening globally. The Korean and Taiwanese companies are more than onboard with this.
ACourtesanOfArabia@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
[deleted]RisingSwell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
That’s an expensive hour of fuck
AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
If things keep going like this, she’ll only have customers among the 0.1%
zo0@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
Pussy so fire, be running on 5200Mhz
comes with built in water cooling
coherent_domain@infosec.pub 2 weeks ago
comes with built in water cooling
not if I am around.
Bosht@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
At this point I’m just assuming we’re looking at a greedflation scenario again. They’re jacking up prices for an assumed increase in demand due to AI. It’s bullshit market manipulation for profit. Also fuck AI I’m fucking sick of this shit already.
cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
You would think that RAM manufacturers would ramp up production. Hopefully the fact that they aren’t means the bubble is going to burst within a couple of years.
orclev@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I doubt it will take a couple years. They’re burning through so much cash right now that they’ll be bankrupt in a couple years and despite sunk cost fallacy they won’t let it get that bad. At some point they’ll cut their losses and pivot to some other new fad. The small handful of uses that make sense will stick around and a few companies will be in just the right place to make it turn a profit but the vast majority won’t. Some will go bankrupt (if we’re lucky Meta and/or X will be one of them) and some will just write it off as a failed experiment. Either way just as hard as prices spiked we’ll see them cratering before they rebound back to normal. Six months would be highly optimistic, but a year probably isn’t out of the question.
Of course all of this might be moot if Shitler manages to start WW3 by attacking Greenland. If that happens RAM prices will be the least of everyone’s worries.
brightwindow@lemmynsfw.com 2 weeks ago
Practically all DRAM production is sold out for next year, there isn’t going to be any significant new supply into the consumer market in that timeframe. Also, when these massive piles of memory end up sitting in a warehouse because the bubble pops, this stock will never make it to the consumer market, because AI data centres use HBM, which is soldered directly to motherboards in such a way that it’s impossible to turn it into modules again. Even if all the DRAM producers start selling to the consumer market jan 1st 2027, the pent up demand will still probably keep prices high.
All that to say, I don’t think prices will crater.
vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 2 weeks ago
Of course all of this might be moot if Shitler manages to start WW3 by attacking Greenland. If that happens RAM prices will be the least of everyone’s worries.
Which WW3? You really mean European militaries won’t back out when threatened? Suppose Shitler kills a few Danish hikers in camouflage with professional pride. Nothing will happen, he’ll just take it.
I swear. For a big war based on alliances and rules to happen you need principles and institutions of the military sort.
0tan0d@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Im sure china will and the tradional manufacturers will cry about losing market share while begging for tarrifs and handouts.
RobotToaster@mander.xyz 2 weeks ago
It takes time to build factories, the big RAM manufacturers apparently think AI is a bubble, although that could just be an excuse for price fixing since there’s basically only three big RAM manufacturers.
China’s cxmt is apparently ramping up production, but they’re still relatively small.
orclev@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
China is pushing hard to make their domestic brands the new standard world wide so they’re not worried about whether the bubble pops or not. They want to drive prices down even if that means selling at a loss because they know that’s what it’s going to take to dislodge the entrenched players. For better or worse it’s likely a winning strategy because the existing players are more concerned with maximizing their quarterly profits rather than meeting any kind of consumer demand or indeed even selling to consumers at all.
Rothe@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
They are ramping up production. But it all goes to AI data centers.
Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Why can’t anyone go against the current and sell to individual customers only?
twinnie@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
No small ask. New factories, new supply chains, more staff, etc.
chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I upgraded all of my devices to 16gb or 32gb of RAM just as all this crap started happening, before prices spiked, and made sure I have enough storage.
Now I’m just praying that all of the hardware holds out for 2-3 years to weather this storm. Please keep on chugging, my 5800X in a B550 mobo…I literally can’t afford to replace you anytime soon.
Telorand@reddthat.com 2 weeks ago
Same. I’m thinking about replacing the PSU, which is one of the original parts, to ensure the rest of the parts don’t fail due to improper power delivery.
At least PSUs haven’t yet spiked in price.
PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Good thing about a PSU is they are simply basic electronics
eli@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
This is where I’m at. I’m selling off some old DDR3 RAM I have and I’m hanging onto my DDR4 stuff and systems.
Just bought a 3700X to replace an aging Ryzen 1700X. $100 on eBay, so not bad.
For your 5800X if it does die(*knock on wood) then at least you can snag a 5700X or 5800X on eBay for $200. Hopefully that stays consistent.
TheOakTree@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
If my 3600X has taught me anything, it’s that AM4 platform is truly a long-haul legend.
garretble@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Is there a shortage or is it just price gouging? We should be using the right terms.
I can go on Newegg right now and see tons of listings for Ram.
Brkdncr@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I’m expecting software development to begin focusing on optimization in about 3 years as businesses begin to complain about feature updates slowing things down on the machines that they are keeping longer than before.
CTOs/CIOs that were holding off on purchasing new hardware because of the upcoming improved CPUs from AMD and Intel lost a horrible gamble.
SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
This whole “America First” and interfering foreign imports/exports is really working out great. /s
He interferes with the economy like some communist government.
TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Part of the problem is lack of interference, they are not regulating the cartels behind this and with Trump they won’t be because all it takes is a bribe.
entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org 2 weeks ago
communist government
Socialist government, sure, but communism describes a stateless society. “Communist government” is an oxymoron.
Yes, I am that guy. Sorry ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
QuandaleDingle@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Yeah, but history wouldn’t agree with you in the literal sense.
JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
I traded a 3080 for $300 off a 5070ti and a week later they stop making them.
DSN9@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
modern reality where only governments and massive corporations control the hardware, and hardware itself is today’s weaponry, replacing tanks and guns?
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 2 weeks ago
I am intensely lucky and smart to gave gotten my new computer and a 14TB HDD right before this insanity happened. I am thinking of buying another 8TB HDD just for the hell of it.
njordomir@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I feel similarly. I pretty much maxed the RAM on my DDR5 gaming/daily driving desktop before this. I wish I had also maxed the RAM on my DDR4 server, though I did acquire significant storage space and a new SSD while it was more affordable. If we see a reasonable dip in storage prices or RAM, I’m buying spare drives in the sizes I use so I can be a bit more insulated from market swings and will have spares on-site immediately if needed.
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 2 weeks ago
I got 64gb of DDR5 ram. I got my computer from Dell and maxed out all what was available on their option. I have zero regrets.
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I’m thinking about making an EU petition on this RAM pricing chaos.
BennyTheExplorer@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Are you joking, or are you actually serious?
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
jensen needs a new shiny jacket though.
MolochHorridus@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
This is about driving us nuts into cloud computing. Just as people are forced to upgrade their computers for Windows 11. First the drought then the saving tech bros emerge with their offerings.
SkyNTP@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
You don’t need the latest Nvidea GPU to self host your own computing. You don’t even need ssds. You arguably don’t even need that much RAM. A ten year old Dell work fine. Are you self hosting your own AI? Probably not. So what? AI is not mature enough that it is a necessity.
Are computing prices coming down? Unlikely before the AI bubble pops. I think we have taken for granted that computing will perpetually improve price/performance. This is not sustainable.
umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Subscription slavery