cross-posted from: lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/36840985
Well this gives me time to start my own Mumble server now
Discord in discussions of going Public Trading, economics expert discusses how that might change things
Submitted 17 hours ago by gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone to technology@lemmy.world
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Zen_Shinobi@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
random_character_a@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
Let the final enshitification commence ╰( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡° )つ──☆*:・ﾟ
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 15 hours ago
Is discord not enshitty?
I open it and it updates 6 times, then I get a full page ad for nitro. Then all the settings push nitro. And all the “servers” push nitro.
BassTurd@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
It’s the best at what it does, but had been getting shitty in the way you described. However, it’s free and they have to support it somehow. I’ll put up with the nitro pushing and understand that’s my cost of doing business. If they go public, I’ll probably actively start looking for an alternative, because that always kills a product and it will for sure mean “AI” will be forced into it.
CosmoNova@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
It is. Which is why I‘m baffled they didn’t go public already.
Nikki@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 hours ago
discord is one of those things i struggle to find an alternative to, not because i lack the skill to do it myself or to make something else do the same tasks, but because all my friends who aren’t as techy as me or big servers i like talking to wouldnt migrate.
having seen its decline since 2016, sooner or later ill have to make the jump but its gonna be harder than ditching google or microsoft because of the community aspect of it.
Credibly_Human@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
A great problem of our society is there being too many problems to have any group of people focus on enough to get any of them solved.
If every issue has just 2% of people caring about it, companies can easily just write those 2% off and do business as usual.
This is why to not have an enshitifed world it has to be top down, and people have to participate in politics logically as opposed to based on which groups of people they hate.
The basic maths of it just doesn’t work for any sort of bottom up action.
It would have to be a relative time of quiet and one company sticking out like a sore thumb for long enough for them to be damaged.
You have seen how rapidly things are getting worse.
There is not going to be that happening, and even if there were, it wouldn’t be enough as there are thousands more issues.
goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 13 hours ago
And so many things using it instead of a forum for information or questions
brucethemoose@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
It’s especially bizzare when Git repos for “open source corporate alternative” type software uses it over their own repo’s native forums.
WTF
They want the social media engagement, I guess. But still. It’s ridiculous how much of a blind spot folks have for it.
mp3@lemmy.ca 15 hours ago
It will inevitably focus more on pleasing its public investors than anything else, therefore enshittification.
Maybe Steam/Valve is a unicorn, but it’s not publicly traded and it’s doing just fine.
JigglySackles@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
It is a unicorn. I dread the day Gaben dies and Valve ends up going public. It feels like the last bastion of decent online services.
brucethemoose@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
Valve’s margins are almost criminal as-is. They make cash hand over fist, and they’re basically a monopoly already.
…So not much might actually change, at least at first?
But this also what they don’t need to go public. They have plenty of capital. And it’d just shrink the slice of pie Valve’s owners get.
LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 hours ago
I’m guessing this will lead to more things being locked behind their subscription model. Ransoming core features for cash is the standard template of this process.
RalfWausE@feddit.org 17 hours ago
Don’t use Discord!
IRC and Matrix are better, free alternatives.
Zoot@reddthat.com 16 hours ago
Matrix sadly doesn’t have the bots, apj, or infrastructure that Discord has. Not to mention its a horrible alternative to Discord, not having permissionable channels is a deal breaker…
Trust me, I want to abandon this ship more than anything but my games/orgs/clans rely heavily on a lot of discord automation that just isn’t even possible in Matrix.
gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 hours ago
Discord got popular because it did Skype and Mumble better than both, but it has suffered a lot from Enshitification
Jpeasy@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
How has it suffered at all in enshitification?
turbowafflz@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
I use both matrix and discord regularly and matrix is nowhere near a viable alternative for discord, the way they work is just too different. The only real alternative I’ve been able to find is guilded but it’s no better than discord since it’s still completely centralized and closed source
MagicShel@lemmy.zip 14 hours ago
I’m on Matrix. That felt like an epic accomplishment that required both mobile and desktop. I don’t remember why it was so difficult, but the registration/login/association process was awful. Maybe that’s just Matrix.org.
Looking for things to do with my Pi that I’m upgrading today with an SSD. Maybe I’ll run my own Matrix server on it so that there can be something else technically running with no traffic.
galaxy_nova@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
I don’t want to use it but the thing is I need to convince my friends and the 50 servers I’m in to switch too…
ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org 13 hours ago
I wonder who sued them... maybe Revolut?
CosmoNova@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
I genuinely do not know how that would change anything. It‘s already monetized thoroughly. They will just add even more ad campaign quests and stuff which you can ignore.
Credibly_Human@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
Have you not seen the world? Everything, no matter how horrific, can always get infinitely worse.
The PIF could buy it and ban gay people. Israel could buy it and persecute people against genocide. A rich right wing billionaire could buy it and force even more nazi memes upon the youth.
There are infinite ways it can get worse. Infinite.
JigglySackles@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
Until they lock it up where you can’t. Or they’ll decide on selling data and injecting ads into your convos or streams.
In other words this hasn’t been enshittified to the max yet at all. There are new and horrible depths to explore.
brucethemoose@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
Oh, sweet summer child.
You just wait.
pyrinix@kbin.melroy.org 14 hours ago
Well the developers, like all techbros, have been sweetening up Discord to what it is. Once they find a pretty buyer, they'll sell it for top dollar. That's the real completion cycle of enshittification. Some private firm will have it or someone like Microsoft may have it and do to it like they've done with Skype.
gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 hours ago
They did, at least, btw smart enough to already smart enough to say no to a buyout attempt by Microsoft
melfie@lemy.lol 15 hours ago
Wonder what’ll be next after Discord enshittifies and alienates all the current users.
gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 hours ago
There’s like 4 contenders, but all missing the crucial thing, critical mass of users
pyrinix@kbin.melroy.org 14 hours ago
It's been enshittifying for a while now.
Who the hell would pay $12 for some fancy profile template? Who'd pay $6 just for an animated thing that revolves around your profile picture? Half of that garbage obstructs your profile.
Not even subscribing to their $10 Nitro deal is worth it. Wow, you get to have a poor selection of ways to display your name. Maybe if a server you really love to be in was active and could take advantage of some of the things advertised, probably might be worth it. But a lot of the time, I'm in servers that don't so I don't see a point.
melfie@lemy.lol 14 hours ago
You’re right, guess I should’ve said “enshittify further”.
Kr4u7@discuss.tchncs.de 14 hours ago
adespoton@lemmy.ca 16 hours ago
How that MIGHT change things?
Just look at every other tech company in the space that’s gone public to see how it WILL change things. It’s not a mystery at this point.