Submitted 4 hours ago by ekZepp@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
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Just pick one - All the Fox functionality without bloatware
Librewolf - librewolf.net
Waterfox - www.waterfox.com
Zen Browser - zen-browser.app
More browsers here - alternativeto.net/category/…/firefox-based/
Also you can use this add to disable the shitload ai function in many search engines in one go
addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/…/disable-ai/
GitHub page - github.com/jruns/disable-ai
You can find all the links on Mastodon<
Does librewolf or water fox have a mobile version that syncs tabs to desktop like official Firefox ?
All Geckos can sync if Mozilla Sync is enabled with an account. So you can sync say LibreWokf or WarwrFox on desktop to any mobile version, such as IronFoz. They do not have to “match”.
Waterfox does, I use it.
IronFox
Really hate how iOS has zero alternatives. Thanks apple for your stupid WebKit.
There are some good iOS browsers, they’re just out of the way.
At the moment, I use Orion (from Kagi) and Narrow32. Quiche Browser is good, DuckDuckGo is fine.
At the moment, iOS doesn’t not allow any other browser engines. Every browser on iOS is just reskinned Safari.
And at some point someone will tell me what is so horrifying about these new features? Mozilla might be the only company trying to provide privacy first AI features. What exactly is so bad here? You can even disable these features if you do not like them at all.
The problem is that they’re pushing it without any way for those of us who really don’t want that crap to strip it out of the browser. Sure, one can disable it, but I’ve already had some of it reenabled in updates. I don’t want it, and don’t plan on wanting it. At best, these functionalities should be opt-in and presented as addons that can be installed, rather than being a core part of the browser that cannot be removed.
I do not want the dev tools and neither the Extension framework, can I get rid of those? No? Being able to completely disable the features is not enough how? How does the code laying bare on your harddisk get in your way of using FX? They already promised a kill-switch. And you saying it turned on after an update is but an anecdote.
There is no such thing as a privacy first AI, unless you’ve the hardware to run the model yourself (and, you don’t).
There different kinds of AI and some run just fine locally or even on mobile. Not everything is a big LLM.
I don’t know others but for me, it’s the constant bugging with their users. I’ve used Firefox since the beginning, and they have made bad choices before, but this is the last straw. I’m tired of circumventing these choices, sometimes doing so is not even that transparent as a “kill switch” and users had to find strings in a cryptic about::config page, for example.
More important, I don’t want so-called AI in my life. I couldn’t care less about it. I won’t use it unless it helps me to find some scientific conclusion that advances our culture, and I’m not talking something huge, I’m not saying it shouldn’t be used at all. However, any use of AI for cotidian achievable tasks is morally unacceptable for me, and I’d ask for everyone a space for reflection on whether it is something filling a necessity in their lives. So, I guess it’s a rupture for me with Mozilla. I can’t use their product because I find it fundamentally wrong to support the massive use of technologies that barely do any good to society, and none to the planet. It’s not about another little discrepancy on features and settings, it’s about not giving people like me the platform to shout “fuck it, I don’t want it, stop it now”.
Mozilla might be the only company trying to provide privacy first AI features.
They are not. There are boatloads of privacy friendly “AI” implementations, they just aren’t very high profile.
But I do think people are over-reacting. This is a less bad approach. And if you can turn it off and leave it off, what’s the big deal?
Considering Windows is basically saying “we’re going to switch what we’ve always been and become an agenic OS, you will just talk to it and Microsoft Cloud will interpret your will (only $89 a month!)”, people are rightly scared about having all technology rug-pulled from under us.
Mozilla was one of the shining beacons of FOSS that allowed users choice and stability against corporate greed. Are you surprised that people are angry that they’re caving to the same toxic greedy behavior?
Any recommendations for iOS? I switched to Librewolf on my Linux pc and Fennec on my Android phone, but still have Firefox on my iPad. Looking for good alternatives.
All browsers on iPhone are reskinned Safari as far as I’m aware. I don’t think it matters much what you pick.
I could be wrong though.
I believe you are correct
didn’t that change some time ago?
…leave iOS?
True, I really hate iOS. I only got this iPad for the Apple Pencil and Procreate. I usually try to keep hardware until it dies, but I may need to dump this iPad for my sanity.
Haven’t used iOS in a while, but I remember Orion being really good. It can install chrome extensions and Firefox add-ons.
Currently using Orion, it works well though I haven’t thoroughly paid attention to scrutinize it thoroughly.
Mullvad Browser for the win!
Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 minutes ago
I use Floorp on desktop. Since I got used to it, I just can’t live without that advanced sidebar. Being able to open the mobile versions of web pages right on the side is just too useful.