Seven Diabetes Patients Die Due to Undisclosed Bug in Abbott's Continuous Glucose Monitors

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• jordanlund@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

  Freestyle Libre was my first CGM and as soon as I had the opportunity to switch to Dexcom, I did.

  Each new sensor was wildly low or wildly high, with no option to calibrate. It was really only good for measuring changes, not the actual glucose reading itself.

  So "Oh, it’s going up, +5, +10, +20… probably accurate, but is it 80, 180, or 240? Use a finger stick to know for sure.

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• burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  My favorite part about the continuous monitors is that they really show the incompetence of the clinics that are supposed to be managing us diabetics. There is a freaking option to share the data with your doctor (this is dexcom’s system thingie), but mine just asks for my account information so they can login with that and get the data. Like, whyyyy?!? You could manage all of us from one account rather than logging in a thousand different times.

  Then we get to the bullshit terms and conditions, where the real hate begins… fucking device maker can go hog wild with all of our data and share it with whomever they want. Can’t use the device, after all, unless you agree to it. HIPAA is basically dead at this point.

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  • Krukenberg@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Thats why I use open source. It puts a ton of responisibility on the user but it’s 100% worth it. Look up xDrip+ for Dexcom and AAPS for SAP (/closed loop systems).

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• Zephorah@discuss.online ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  This makes me think of Norton in fight club discussing recalls.

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  • AreaKode@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    A times B times C equals X…If X is less than the cost of a recall, we don’t do one.

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    • 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The older I get, the more I understand (I mean, really understand Tyler Durden). And I hate that this is so.

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    • treadful@lemmy.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Damn, I gotta watch that movie again.

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  • piecat@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    FDA mandates how recalls happen, pharmaceutical or medical device.

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    • SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Do they still exist?

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    • roofuskit@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      They have to have information.

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• jj4211@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Had a relative with a toddler that almost died due to his GCM overreporting his levels.

  My mom had one and learned immediately not to trust it.

  I’m shocked that both people I know personally had those devices turn out to be uselessly inaccurate…

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  • orclev@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Abbott claims they’re good for 14 days of use but my experience is that they’re worthless after 5 to 10 days. The first 5 days of use they’re about as accurate as the Dexcom units (typically +/- 10%). Beyond that they start to read increasingly low (-50% to -80%) with readings often failing entirely by day 10 or 11. It wouldn’t be a problem if you could replace them after 5 days, but if you do that insurance pitches a fit and refuses to cover more of them because “they’re good for 14 days”.

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    • TeamAssimilation@infosec.pub ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I’ve used Libre 2 for years, they work reliably. They will usually fail in the first hours of use, but otherwise work well for the 14 days.

      Always keep a standard glucometer at hand, because these monitors can be affected by temperature and humidity.

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    • xep@discuss.online ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Is this behaviour for a particular sensor, like the Libre 2, or do they affect all of them?

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• pHr34kY@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I eventually figured out that the Libre Freesytle 2 will significantly underread if you sleep on it. I would recommend doing a finger prick test before acting upon what a CGM tells you to do.

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  • mikerr@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    Found that on day one, pretty sure it’s even in the instructions not to put the sensor somewhere you’ll put pressure on.

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• devolution@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Dexcom is more reliable.

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  • orclev@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Unfortunately I am severely allergic to the adhesive Dexcom uses that they claim is hypoallergenic.

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    • SlurpingPus@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      From what I know about the US, this entire thread seems like a wet dream of a lawyer working on commission.

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    • 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      That’s a misprint. It’s supposed to say hyperallergenic.

      (/s, in case that wasn’t obvious)

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    • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Do adhesive barriers help at all? I live off the Smith and nephew one

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  • xep@discuss.online ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The Dexcom is far more uncomfortable also, in my experience. The filament causes a red spot and aching in my arm, but the Libre 2’s does not.

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    • devolution@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Insurance is more likely to cover the Dexcom. God bless Healthcare. 🙃

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• Lemminary@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  (Foreigner here) Could this be related to DOGE’s defunding of the three-letter acronym agencies and all that? It seems like proper testing and reporting weren’t being carried out. They say this has been happening since the 80s, but seven deaths is a little too much.

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  • frongt@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Probably not. These products take a long time to develop, and DOGE was only a thing in the last few months.

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  • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    no, these products are well known to have alot inaccuracies in thier detection, thats why you should have a backup fingerstick glucose monitor as a backup at all times.

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• ChaosInstructor@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  seeing this now feels great. two weeks ago i got a crt-d implanted and sure as hell…it is an abbot.

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  • Krukenberg@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    CGM is new tech and it is known to healthcare providers know how much it sucks. Dont worry about their pacers.

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