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Small rant, but people saying they believe in science is a pet peeve of mine. Belief has no place olin science.
You can’t “believe” in science any more than you can “know” in your religion.
Belief and faith are the realm of the unknowable. Knowledge and fact are the realm of science.
When people say they “believe” in science, I think they mean they are putting their faith into the scientists performing the science. That whatever conclusion they come to after an experiment or study is the correct conclusion.
I’m sure you can find the flaw in doing so, as science is constantly being debunked. A good example that comes to mind is the alpha wolf theory.
It can be argued that while science strives to be in the realm of knowledge and fact, it doesn’t always succeed in doing so. At least not in the first rounds of study. And I think that’s what its strength is; being able to correct itself in the pursuit of knowledge and fact. All the same, science is run by humans, and humans are fallible. But despite that fallibility, some people are willing to put their faith into scientists because of their constant pursuit for the truth. Even if what they said yesterday got debunked today, it doesn’t make yesterday’s scientists any lesser. It only means we are all better for it.
When people say they “believe” in science, I think they mean they are putting their faith into the scientists performing the science. That whatever conclusion they come to after an experiment or study is the correct conclusion.
That’s literally what they mean, where “scientists” may as easily mean real scientists as charlatans.
It’s still completely antagonistic to how science is practiced (if scientists behaved like that, they would never learn anything), and something closer to religion than science.
I am not smart enough to come to my own conclusions about a lot of science, so yes I must believe what the collective scientific community asserts, because I have no other way to prove things that happen. For me, that means putting my faith in their accuracy. So yes, I believe in science.
It should also be noted that there are people out there that treat science as a religion; that it is infallible, and cannot be changed, and to suggest otherwise is blasphemy. 🤷♂️
www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/believe
“To consider to be true or honest”
I don’t know what you think believe means but you’re wrong
Hello, Ordo Machinum? This heretic right here!
What’s this about right after waking up? (I may have struck this from memory)
My circadian whatever has had all my life to get used to it. I don't accept complaints now.
Fine! I’ll use my laptop instead.
I have Delayed Sleep Phase Syndrome… light has no effect on me. Checkmate scientists!
I have a strong feeling I do too, inherited from my mom (both of us self-diagnosed). I also appreciate you calling it a syndrome and not a disorder. It’s only a “disorder” because society decided to only accommodate one type of circadian rhythm. Humans have needed people on night watch forever, my money is that this was an advantageous phenomenon.
How were you diagnosed? I’ve experienced a similar difficulty keeping a consistent sleep schedule but I’d always assumed it was screen related
When it didn’t go away when I was temporarily taken off my adhd meds as a teen. Before that they thought it was just because of the meds. That was apparently also the earliest indication that I would have adult adhd. If you have an adhd doc talk to them about it, it’s pretty common to have both.
The effect of circadian rythm in mammals doesn’t really have the scientific evidence people think it does. Most people, even highly educated ones, are unwittingly creationists.
What does the validity of the circadian rhythm concept have to do with creationism? Being wrong about one thing doesn’t suddenly mean you believe in ghost stories.
Here is a review paper listing many peer reviewed sources relating to the circadian rhythm:
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8800593/
The circadian rhythm in mammals has a large body of scientific evidence.
… What?
Source: I pulled it out of me unwashed arse
I’d rather spend one hour on my phone before bed than three trying and failing to get my brain to shut up ¯\(ツ)/¯
Now that you mention it, my phone is by far the most reliable alarm clock I’ve ever had. It does DST switches for me. The battery recharges itself. I just never noticed because phones sucked at first.
Circadian rhythm is pseudoscience
minnow@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
I mean, those two things aren’t mutually exclusive. I can believe the science AND ALSO engage in behaviors it says are unhealthy for me.
danc4498@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
I have night light mode on my phone. So I’m good!!!
VieuxQueb@lemmy.ca 2 hours ago
That’s not a scientific thing tho ! Proven to have no effect in fact.