How do they know if a customer has never been on the freeway before?
Waymo says its self-driving taxis will take customers on freeways for the first time
Submitted 3 weeks ago by return2ozma@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
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OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Jumpropegazing@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
doing absolutely anything but giving people good free public transport. Do you want to use a self driving car that is run by companies that will start hiding things like heated seats behind a paywall, leave backdoors for governments that will eventually be used by bad actors to track exactly where you’re going? i don’t trust this shit at all waymo is google and google might as well have signed a deal with the devil
Squizzy@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Obviously fuck this, but your arguments are the same for public transport. Government run, easily tracked and has paywalls.
It is an efficiency, decency, environmental and cost decision. Waymo loses all. Convenience currently is its seller.
Jumpropegazing@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
public transit shouldn’t have to track you to give you service, and for buses you can pay with change so unless they check the cameras which they need probable cause to do then no its not tracking anything about where you’re going and logging it anywhere in some database
nyan@lemmy.cafe 3 weeks ago
Conditions on freeways are usually more controlled than conditions on surface-level roads, and Waymo’s accident record isn’t bad, unlike Tesla’s. I suspect that this isn’t going to generate any post-debut news stories of much significance. (If something bad and avoidable does happen, though, Waymo is 100% accountable—no handwaving it away.)
Noobnarski@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Yeah, I would be happier to have autonomous cars on the freeway than on other roads. There are usually no pedestrians on freeways that can be overlooked.
But I’m even happier that there are no autonomous cars driving by itself where I live right now.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
My commute to work is about 90% highway, with most of it near my home. If I could take an autonomous car from a parking lot near the highway in my area to a park and ride near my work, I’d do it. Transit there is a nightmare and would take nearly 2 hours each way due to unfortunate transfers, and takes 30-35 min by car.
So yeah, I’m 100% in favor if them running fixed routes until mass transit options can catch up. Run them between park and ride areas near highways to destinations, and maybe a handful of routes within cities (certain designated roads with clear markings and whatnot).
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
God help us,
oh yea there is no god…
this is a suicide carriage, but I guess its useful for when I lose the will to live lol
Buffalox@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
AFAIK nobody has died in a Waymo, and they have a very low accident rate, lower than human drivers. Calling it a suicide carriage is just not reflecting reality in any way.
thatradomguy@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
These things are literally known to make improper decisions and have been caught on camera crashing into things. What the fuck are people doing?
AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Drivers are literally known to make improper decisions and have been caught on camera crashing into things. What the fuck are people doing?
BD89@lemmy.sdf.org 2 weeks ago
Difference is a driver can be held accountable.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Awesome, I hope we get something similar in my area in Utah. We have awful traffic, and I’m convinced a large part of it is awful drivers and road rage. If people could instead take a self-driving car and do other stuff, I am hopeful road rage would reduce.
If there was an option that would take me from a park and ride near the highway to a park and ride near my work, I’d take it. Mass transit to my work sucks, and this would fill that gap until the state prioritizes that area.
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 3 weeks ago
I’m sorry……people have been saying these are better than Tesla’s FSD and they can’t even go on a highway?!
Jumpropegazing@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
because it is better… teslas full self driving literally causes accidents all the time because of not using actual sensors for depth and lidar, there have been tons of cases of people using their teslas on freeways and it just crashes them out of nowhere, they just don’t care about forcing out a release even if its extremely dangerous and proven to be so
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 3 weeks ago
Tesla uses cameras for depth sensing. If you don’t understand how that works, do some research.
titanicx@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
I mean honestly I’m not even mad that a self-driving car isn’t taking the freeway. It’s pretty scary that Tesla is considering and is actually taking people on the freeway but I understand that their requirements are that they have to have a driver behind the seat which really doesn’t make the car self-driving.
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 3 weeks ago
The person being behind the seat doesn’t make it not self driving, it just means that laws around consumer vehicles mandate it.
dukatos@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
- You always told me to stay off the freeway.
- Yes, that’s true.
- You said it was suicide.
BD89@lemmy.sdf.org 3 weeks ago
Puts on red!
Hadriscus@jlai.lu 3 weeks ago
An “autonomous” car cannot be held accountable, therefore an “autonomous” car should never fucking go near a freeway
JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
There wouldn’t be a need for an autonomous car to go on a freeway if we had decent intermodal public transit.
Just have cars like these patrolling the suburbs and picking people up for light/commuter rail, then a hub where you could get within a block of anywhere with no more than one transfer.
High Speed rail if you need to get to another urban center from there.
That’s the dream, at least.
Nobody wants to use public transit, because it’s starved dry. Nobody wants to invest in public transit, because nobody uses it. Everyone just drives, because everyone has cars. Everyone has cars because public transit is terrible.
But I do long for the day that this could pick me up and take me to the bus station/commuter rail stop.
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
E-bikes and E-trikes would be able to get you to the nearest station just as easily for most people, if there was proper infrastructure. I have an E-bike, and basically use that and the trolly/ Amtrak to get around in Southern California. It’s not perfect, but it works, and I can actually do stuff while I am commuting.
skisnow@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
Define “held accountable”?
If you mean who will pay out if there’s an accident, presumably Waymo will have found an insurer willing to cover them. But if you mean that someone out there must be punished to satisfy some sense of vengeance, then you may want to re-examine your values.
CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
How about faces the same punishment someone that isn’t an incredibly rich corporation would face? If that’s insurance then sure, if thats jail time then yes someoen should be punished just like anyone else would.
Hadriscus@jlai.lu 3 weeks ago
Yes I did mean punished. Specifically whipped, in fact. With brake cables.
What’s wrong with my values ???