Submitted 3 weeks ago by return2ozma@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
opening doors, fetching items and turning the lights on or off
That’s worthless.
teleoperation
I got rid of Microsoft, getting rid of Google and dozens of other surveillance aggregators. Why would I want this?
The idea is dead on arrival. Except maybe for a few very specific circumstances.
No it’s not.
It might be to you, but there are enormous numbers of elderly and disabled people who would benefit from more assistance.
I still wouldn’t trust a robot around them given how inherently dangerous a massive motorized contraption is, but we also shouldn’t be blind to accessibility and utility just because we don’t personally need it.
For sure. Imagine if your grandma fell and couldn’t get to a phone fuck a life alert this thing can call emergency services immediately and in the maybe not so distant future drive her to the hospital itself.
I do agree that it could be a privacy concern but the benefits for certain use cases like as you described far outweighs any privacy concerns.
Massive numbers of elderly people can’t afford this. Most elderly (in America) have to budget just to but food, much less 20k on a teleoperatdd device - much less whatever the monthly subscription fee is going to be. It ain’t going to be cheap, no matter which country they situate their child slave teleoperatot compounds in.
There is a severe lack of people to work in the care sector. I don’t understand how the situation is improved by having them remotely control expensive robots. They can still only be in one place at a time controlling one robot at a time.
Why would I want this?
Bold of you to assume there aren’t plenty of folks out there willing to overlook any potential privacy concerns for their very own robot butler.
Worthless? You clearly don’t have children.
They can open doors and leave lights on, but somehow not turn off / close.
So instead of teaching your kids basic human interaction with trivial objects, you would prefer an Indian guy doing it with a teleoperated 20k chassis? Yes, my idea of parenting is vastly differs from yours :)
There’s hydraulic devices you can attach to basically any door to make them close automatically, and a micro-radar presence-sensing light switch is maybe $100 bucks if that.
Step 1: “AI will replace human labor.” Step 2: “Actually, we still need a few humans to label the data.” Step 3: “Okay, the humans are now teleoperating the robots directly.” Step 4: “Wait, that’s just… labor again.”
Except now the labour is hidden in a corporate warehouse and you can’t see the abuse.
Or Alternatively they’re sitting at home in their pajamas enjoying a nice cup of coffee 🤷♂️
I thought that ssid teleportation and I was like “how does that help something learn?”
If he’s invented teleportation that’s totally different I’m all for that.
Why not just, you know, employ an actual human to do your chores in the first place? It’ll almost certainly be a lot cheaper than this clanker…
Besides, there’s no guarantee that those teleoperators won’t be sweatshop workers.
Because this is much easier to exploit than people you have to pay fairly. Sad, but very true.
Like everything else in America the value of capital is the only thing that matters! See the healthcare system as it is right now if you need proof of that.
AI exists to isolate the worker from their labor, and for people in power to avoid accountability by creating new layers of plausible deniability.
I agree on the slave front. If it was going to be any slavery going on it better be good old-fashioned analogue slavery.
I appreciate the thought but which would you choose:
Full time minimum wage US worker at $7¼/hr or $15,080/yr vs $20,000 one time purchase?
I agree with you that these things are likely underpaid labor (maybe including literal slavery, or job conditions close enough to count anyways), but I don’t think your argument is going to be convincing to anyone actually considering getting one.
Privacy, shmivacy.
I don't want this. I just want a robot that can fold laundry. I don't care if it can only fold 80% of it and if it takes all day for a single basket. I'd happily pay 1-2K for it too!
Someone thought: “People keep playing video games where they do chores, what’s the next step…?”
You could earn money by renting renting out your robot to let people power wash your driveway remotely
Nice, looking forward to the day when I can get one that runs 100% locally. Not sure if it would be cost effective to hire someone to operate the thing vs. just hiring a maid service, though.
Or you could just do your chores and not drop 20k
I’m just surprised that it seems relatively cheap. Not to me personally, mind you, but I would expect something like this that’s actually decent quality to cost somewhere more like 100k.
Is this how irobot starts?
From the backrooms, straight to your home!
I’d only buy a robomaid if it’s 100% wireless.
MurrayL@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Those teleoperators are gonna see a LOT of dicks.