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'Borderlands 4 is a premium game made for premium gamers' is Randy Pitchford's tone deaf retort to the performance backlash: 'If you're trying to drive a monster truck with a leaf blower's motor, you're going to be disappointed'

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Submitted ⁨⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨mintiefresh@piefed.ca⁩ to ⁨games@lemmy.world⁩

https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/borderlands-4-is-a-premium-game-made-for-premium-gamers-is-randy-pitchfords-tone-deaf-retort-to-the-performance-backlash-if-youre-trying-to-drive-a-monster-truck-with-a-leaf-blowers-motor-youre-going-to-be-disappointed/

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  • Gork@sopuli.xyz ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Maybe try optimizing your game before releasing it?

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    • pressanykeynow@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That’s probably the best how copilot could optimize it.

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    • itkovian@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Please try optimizing your pc before purchasing BL4. \s

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  • normanwall@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    How does someone with such a shitty personality and dress sense get so smug?

    If I looked and acted like him I would want to punch myself in the face

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    • kepix@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      he has reached enough wealth, rules do not apply anymore

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    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      How does someone with such a shitty personality and dress sense get so smug?

      Lots and lots of money.

      If I looked and acted like him I would want to punch myself in the face

      He has top of the line security details to do that for him.

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      • dangling_cat@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        And they keep failing up. Your job qualification is what you have done, not how well they were doing.

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  • yolahermanto@piefed.social ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It's sad that a lot of devs just make their game and then slap frame-gen on it and then release it. Like who cares about optimization. Not that I blame them, people still buy those games full-priced, so...

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    • Cocodapuf@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      people still buy those games full-priced, so…

      Wait, does nobody pirate games any more? I don’t think I bought a single game until I turned 25.

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    • eatCasserole@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Who even has time to play full price games? I have enough unplayed games piled up in my steam/epic/gog libraries to keep me busy for decades.

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      • PrivateNoob@sopuli.xyz ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Well a surprisingly lot of people. Just a guess but maybe this is the main or only hobby for a significant amount of buyers?

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  • Vinny_93@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I haven’t looked at the performance reviews per system yet but I recall the complaints for Borderlands 3 mainly came from people trying to run it on an old i5 with a 1060 or similar. You need a high end system, that much is clear. Or you need to get comfortable with 30 fps.

    I’m not saying Randy is right to strike that tone, but you can’t deny there is a point to saying that some games are meant to be played on powerful systems and won’t accept anything less.

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    • MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Its a recent AAA game on a modern game engine, so it probably runs awful even on top of the line hardware.

      Basically every game that comes out these days in the AAA space is a horrible unoptimized mess.

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    • Goodeye8@piefed.social ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Sure, in theory. In practice we're talking about 3k machines struggling to hit 60FPS (dropping as low as 30fps on occasions) on max settings with DLSS on. A 3k machine gets you high setting low 70 FPS with DLSS on. If a 3k machine is not a high end system what the fuck is a high end system? And the bigger issue is what exactly are we paying for here? Borderlands 4 doesn't even look significantly better than Borderlands 3. There's no reason for the game to be this performance heavy when it looks like a game from 2019.

      You have a point in some hypothetical scenario but in actuality this is a case of Randy being full of shit.

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    • snugglesthefalse@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      My complaint about borderlands 3 was the cringe main antagonists. Like I’m happily shooting stuff and they hop in with painfully mediocre snippets of whatever they’re supposed to be doing. Also they killed off one of the best characters. The gunplay felt nice, the music and graphics were good. I didn’t have any real technical issues.

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    • Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      People with high end systems (5090s etc) are apparent having a lot of performance issues, and are unable to run the game at 60fps/4k without AI upscaling or frame generation.

      There’s also a lot of complaints about stuttering, and the game wouldn’t launch at all for a lot of people when it first came out.

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      • pivot_root@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        People with high end systems (5090s etc) are apparent having a lot of performance issues, and are unable to run the game at 60fps/4k without AI upscaling or frame generation.

        It’s even better when you realize that the performance degrades the longer you’ve been playing that session. It’s unoptimized and leaky.

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    • EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Sure, but powerful systems don’t run it too well either. Especially given how mediocre the game looks visually.

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  • maxwells_daemon@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Ran dis Pitchfork into your mom last night

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  • nagaram@startrek.website ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Considering Randy REALLY wants you to pay $130 USD for this game, I’m not shocked his performance advice was “be less poor”

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  • etchinghillside@reddthat.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    So… I shouldn’t plan on playing this on a Steamdeck when it gets down to $19.99?

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    • TachyonTele@piefed.social ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I'd watch reviews first.
      Borderlands 3 works excellent on the deck though.

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    • ampersandrew@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Not the current one, no. The Steam Deck is closer to a PS4 spec, and even if there weren’t optimization problems, this is built to a PS5 spec.

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      • normanwall@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Someone smarter than Randy will figure out tweaks and optimisations to allow it eventually.

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  • Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I love Borderlands, but I really wish Randy would just shut the fuck up.

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    • Cethin@lemmy.zip ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I think it was a really good game originally. The writing has gotten really fucking bad though, and the gameplay hasn’t really evolved with the times. (I can’t speak on the new game.)

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      • Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        The new one feels like progress so far. I’m not very deep in, but the story and dialogue are not nearly as annoying as 3 was. The biggest difference has to be the movement. In previous games it often felt like you were trudging forward until you found an enemy and then running backwards so they didn’t catch you before they die. Grappling hooks, double jumps, and gliding add a TON of movement and gives you those John Wick moments where you’re bouncing around the area and blasting people from every direction.

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    • Onyxonblack@lemmy.zip ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I hate borderlands, and I also wish Randy would shut the fuck up!

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      • pugnaciousfarter@literature.cafe ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I have a simple rule - Not touching anything that has grease on it.

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    • ilinamorato@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I think he thinks he’s Jack in The Pre-Sequel, but really he’s Jack in Borderlands 2.

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      • MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Jack in BL2 was funny and entertaining tho.

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    • stoy@lemmy.zip ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      B1 is a bit slow, but quite fun, B2 is brilliant, BTPS is similar to B2, but the crafting stuff is annoying, B3 was too chaotic with a too cluttred UI and a damn annoying story, B4, I have no idea

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      • Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Good assessment. I agree completely!

        I’m not very far in, but so far I’m enjoying B4 more than TPS, and MUCH more than 3.

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      • simple@piefed.social ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Allegedly B4 is much better than 3, aside from the abysmal performance. I can wait until they fix it and get it for $15 on sale.

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      • debil@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I’ve been playing B4 for a few hours now and it’s been pretty good. Definitely getting more B2 vibes than B3.

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      • SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        What crafting?

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      • Zahille7@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Have you tried Wonderlands? I really liked it, and would love a sequel/more of that one.

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