cross-posted from: programming.dev/post/37201067
99% of people are going to use Bluetooth headphones but insist they hear the difference.
Spotify Add Lossless Audio(24-bit / 44.1 kHz FLAC) for Premium Subscribers
Submitted 1 day ago by Pro@programming.dev to technology@lemmy.world
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vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 hours ago
bathing_in_bismuth@sh.itjust.works 5 hours ago
LDAC?
3laws@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
This will soon no longer be a gatekeeper, with 6.1 at most 6.2 we will have the high actual available bandwidth for Hi-Res, latency will still be around but quality will finally be on par with low-mid Hi-Res.
sma3in@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
I think they saw that their premium users are not cancelling their subscription and moving to other streaming services, and they pulled this move. Not until Spotify start paying artists fairly, moderates the AI music bs, stop jacking up the prices, the CEO stops supporting the genocide against Palestine, improve their discovery algorithm and the list goes on; Spotify can go fuck itself.
gusgalarnyk@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
We left this month, wife is moving to YouTube premium as a way to ease her out of straming services and I’m building our collection of music every month through self-hosting so when she’s ready there’s a large library for her.
It’s been great buying music from artists and listening to whole albums which is not something I normally do.
Spotify doesn’t support their artists as far as I’m aware, what money they do spend on creators it’s people like Joe Rogan, and they continue to increase the price every month. I’m tired of paying for techno fascist’s next Yacht (or election) and this is just one way we’re slowly pulling away from subscriptions.
simsalabim@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
They still scam artists and support war drone manufacturers.
Squizzy@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
Im not against supporting war drone manufacturers so much as ones related to Israel.
I’d buy multiple subscriptions if the proceeds went to Ukrainian drones.
MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
Are they going to switch to a reward system that allow botfarms to steal money from legitimate artists?
No?
That would reduces apparent user volume? _ Oh noo…_
Marshezezz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 hours ago
And they still exploit artists
br0da@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Fuck Spotify
ncrav@lemmings.world 18 hours ago
You’re like 10 years late to the part pals.
01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 15 hours ago
So you can hear their ai slop music more clearly.
ObsidianZed@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
I’ve been meaning to look back into spotizerr and now I’m curious if it’ll give me lossless.
waddle_dee@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Cool, I’ll still be using Tidal, as they pay their artists the most, I believe.
Mora@pawb.social 1 day ago
According to www.soundguys.com/tidal-vs-qobuz-140740/ this is not the case.
Qobuz $0.022 Napster $0.02 Tidal $0.013 Apple Music $0.01 Deezer $0.0064 Spotify $0.003 - $0.005 Amazon Music $0.00402 SoundCloud $0.0025 - $0.004 Pandora $0.00133 YouTube Music $0.00069 - $0.0012 IronKrill@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
Same table aligned to cents for easier reading.
Qobuz 2.2¢ Napster 2.0¢ Tidal 1.3¢ Apple Music 1.0¢ Deezer 0.640¢ Spotify 0.300¢ - 0.500¢ Amazon Music 0.402¢ SoundCloud 0.250¢ - 0.400¢ Pandora 0.133¢ YouTube Music 0.069¢ - 0.120¢ DaGeek247@fedia.io 1 day ago
Oof. Top three, but at the same time, half as much as the top paying site does.
waddle_dee@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
Oh, damn. Thank you, my data was outdated then. I guess I’ll have to move things to Qobuz, which was a pain last time I transferred a library.
dustyData@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Can’t wait for my new hard-drive to arrive so I can further expand my lossless music collection even more.
Master@sh.itjust.works 14 hours ago
I failed the npr test so I dont think I need it. Either im to old or use shitty Bluetooth headphones… Or both!
eco_game@discuss.tchncs.de 4 hours ago
CriticalMiss@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
Bluetooth protocol uses AAC to compress audio. If you use lossless audio with Bluetooth headphones it’ll sound the same because either way you’re always listening to compressed audio
eco_game@discuss.tchncs.de 5 hours ago
It depends, some better Bluetooth headphones (like the Sony WH-1000XM family) support protocols other than SBC, which have a lot higher bandwidth.
BakedCookie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 hours ago
Not universally true, mine uses aptx. Depending on the device you can switch between codecs.
Master@sh.itjust.works 6 hours ago
To be fair I also tried the test with some 250 dollar monitor headphones and failed too. Probably because the shitty onboard sound card. But also im old.
vext01@lemmy.sdf.org 1 day ago
Unfortunately (or maybe fortunately?) I can’t hear a difference between lossless and reasonable bitrate compressed files, so…
Mubelotix@jlai.lu 10 hours ago
There is no such thing as lossless audio. 44kHz is bad
3laws@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
44.1 is the LOWEST Hi-Res its just CD quality, literally.
After we got proof of Tidal lying about lossless I had to lock in Qobuz for the foreseeable future. 2nd year already and rarely ever I don’t find artists or albums. Deezer was alright for the 5 years I had my account but I could still notice harsh highs on some symphonies and dull-ish Jazz sessions, not my main genres but I’m still glad I made the switch
Mubelotix@jlai.lu 6 hours ago
Why do people upvote you and downvote me though we say the same thing
desmosthenes@lemmy.world 1 day ago
hard pass
Jarix@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
Just for clarity, are you already using spotify and are passing on this feature, or just hard pass on Spotify itself?
desmosthenes@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
on spotify itself
IronKrill@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
Gotta say I’m surprised to see Spotify adding something people actually want. It must be getting rough for them.
Damarus@feddit.org 1 day ago
I might be out of the loop. Who wants this exactly? There is no audible benefit from lossless audio. I rip all my music to lossless files but that’s archival. There’s nothing to archive with streaming services.
hazl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
I want this, and although there isn’t always a perceptible difference in audio quality, there sometimes can be. It depends on the content, and I’d rather sometimes stream audio at an excessively high bitrate than always lose the high–end definition that I could have enjoyed where it exists.
All my life I’ve been getting into disagreements with people who believe that because they can’t tell the difference between A and B, I must not be able to either. I find this immensely frustrating.
Neverclear@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 hours ago
Over bluetooth through a car stereo, no you won’t hear a difference. But over a cable through a decent pair of headphones, there is a difference. Even more with a good DAC, amp, and speakers.
The problem with audio quality is that one bad step in the chain from bits to eardrums will nerf the sound quality. So, if you upgrade one step you have to upgrade all of the other steps too before you will reap any benefits.
As a musician and audio engineer, I would love to say that you should experience a richer music listening experience. On the other hand… fucking rent.
thejml@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
I would if they didn’t lose me a long time ago. On bluetooth headphones it doesnt make a huge difference. But I used to stream to my Home Theater setup and Spotify sounded horrible compared to the source material. I could also tell a difference with a quality headphone amp and my 250ohm DT770 pros.
mateofeo85@lemmy.world 1 day ago
People say that, but I definitely hear a difference. Mainly in the bass and lower end. You can’t get lossless with Bluetooth. Or airplay. I also use good headphones and a great sound system.
GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 21 hours ago
Based on the vibes of every internet comment field, literally everyone and their mother wants to stream lossless.
You’re right about the audible benefits however
mrdown@lemmy.world 1 day ago
The small community of audiophile
JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
Most people wouldn’t be able to notice the difference even with the best possible equipment, but there is a difference.