Submitted 2 months ago by mesamunefire@piefed.social to technology@lemmy.world
A lot of Youtube channels are reporting declining viewership lately.
EX: https://youtube.com/watch?v=cpVnx4_yqTo
Then I saw this article as well.
This might be another example of over reliance on AI to judge what’s good or not to show users: news.clownfishtv.com/…/reddit-asks-did-youtube-br…
Good.
Some pretty serious things going on in the world today that need our support and therefore attention. I consume less entertainment as a byproduct.
Maybe YT has started to be more aggressive towards viewbots like Twitch? Or has changed something in the algorithm (again) and fucked up (again).
Some other analysis: jeffgeerling.com/…/youtube-views-are-down-dont-pa…
Nice actual data. Still concerning but I views seem to be down across the board. If you feel like it, you should share it with the rest of the community.
I think the biggest channels I watch have under 4 million subscribers, and most of my channels have less than a million. I’ve never watched the big channels, so I don’t really care.
A while back, YT asked me about turning on my watch history, but I didn’t know it was off. I don’t know what that was about–I think they changed something–but my knee-jerk reaction is to NOT do what they want me to do, so I left it off. Now I just watch whatever is new from my subscriptions, and don’t have any suggestions cluttering my front page, which is a much better way to use YT, imo. So, thanks, YT.
i watched a ton of animal channels from not so big content creator, i feel like they were the most genuine. or other sci related channels.
Anyone here youtube creators? Are you seeing the same thing, a general downturn in viewership?
I have a channel with over 20k subs, nearly all evergreen content. Haven’t uploaded a video in many years, so it’s slowly getting fewer views. Fun fact, the pandemic saw the highest view counts, and I also didn’t add content back then.
Every enhancement YouTube brings is specifically to improve monetization, and since I disable ads on my channel and don’t have any sponsored content, I’m not getting any benefits. I also refuse to do shorts, so I’m losing a ton of exposure there, too.
If an active channel isn’t doing well, they should call it quits, TBH. They’ll either have to compromise the quality of their content “for the algorithm”, or their content isn’t actually useful outside of a single view.
they are too addicted to lavish lifestyle they have, so greed. they would probably lower it before they call it quits. some might pivot politically to stay on the radar.
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Because of short videos?
isnt well know he had incident with a former employer over something like last year? the sub/fans are all just shilling/meming for him.
isnt well know he had incident with a former employer over something like last year?
It’s so well known that you can’t even name what it is?
Viewer bot farms is a thing. Is that a declining business now? And the results starting to show now?
Maybe they pivoted to ai farming? Dunno.
YouTube only shows me like 12 channels. I miss variety.
Remember, so long as you stay subscribed to a channel but don’t interact with it in any way(click a vid, comment, dislike it ir comments in the comment section) it hurts the channel. Thats why i resubbed to every channel i unsubbed from, that eay i can actually hinder them instead of help them. This has been proven from Jesse Cox being told so by youtube staff during meetings he’s had, you literally gave to start a fresh channel free from the dead subs to get the algorithm to pick you back up.
I just don’t get suggested his content anymore. Then again I just found out every channel I’ve ever subscribed to is under a seperate category and usually not under the main YouTube page…
Basically I’m blocking every channel I’ve subscribed to without ever realising…
This is now the second time in a short period of time that I stumble across someone who didn’t know the subscriptions page existed. Or at least that is how I interpreted what you said.
I always thought it was obvious that the main feed is for discovering new stuff based on watch history and the ol trusty content can be found in the sub box. It is always fascinating to see how differently people use software I use daily while thinking it is how everyone does it
The subscribed view has shorts filling most of it, it became useless
I just use RSS to track my subscriptions instead
I have to go to my subscribed channels just to see what they’ve posted now. YT definitely changed up their algorithm and it’s useless for me now. It doesn’t present anything I’m interested in.
before, if I clicked on a new video it might show me a few videos after that which fit the same theme/category. Now if I watch one fucking video it completely floods my algorithm with the same shit back to back. I have different accounts on every device I watch something on (like in the kitchen when cooking, etc) and they’re so fucking drastically different in the feed it’s insane.
do you have the “important” tab at he top of subs now? it shows me videos i have already watched and I have no clue how it works or how youtube decides what is important but it’s unnecessary and annoying.
I guess the point is channels are seeing a dropping viewership across the board. Or at least two different creators of VERY different videos have had the same experience so far. And the reddit thread behind this has more people (assuming they are telling the truth) confirming the drop.
It seems like YouTube is doing something where they don’t consider views to be actual “views” anymore. I saw one creator reporting that you only get credit as a view if you also leave a comment on the video because I guess Google thinks this will somehow hamper bots? Sounds like a bunch of bullshit no matter how you look at it. Personally I think Google is just trying to avoid paying creators so they’re only crediting them for a fraction of the views they get, but you just know they’re charging those advertisers for every single view whether they’re paying the creators or not.
Its because theres too many “dead subscriptions”. The algorithm punishes channels that have subs that dont interact with saud channel.
This is such a strange concept. Like fundamentally a subscription is just a mechanism to allow a viewer to easily keep track of new content on a channel. By viewing the channels contents you’re engaging in 100% of the interaction you should be expected to have with a subscribed channel. If Google really wanted to address the problem of old subscriptions people are ignoring they should just prompt people to unsubscribe to channels that they haven’t watched any videos from in a long time. Instead they’re fucking with view counts because that saves them money. The whole thing is fishy, but Google has always treated being inscrutable and capricious as if those were virtues.
i never login so, its nice to not see the same person/influencer(often ragebait, propaganda when you close and open youtube again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEJpZjg8GuA&t=18
Just use the subscriptions tab (yes, this video does talk about it).
I had never heard of him til all the shit started getting slung around.
temporarily paid more interest to him, when that drama hit last year, about him and the other employee. He looked like he just woke up from a long coma, and wasnt present his channel for some time at the time.
I literally i watch a YouTube videos, as they are just a waste of time. For a given video on a given topic, the same amount of information can be obtained by a decently written blog or article that can be read in a 1/10 of the time it takes to watch q video filled by nonsense blabbering and sponsored segments for revenues. In some extreme cases, if the topic seems really, really , REALLay interesting, I may ask an LLM to summarize the video for me. People should stop linking YouTube videos altogether.
I disagree with you so you should stop posting your opinions altogether.
There’s a “block” button somewhere in Lemmy’s interface, under my profile. Just use it and go back swallowing crappy YT videos.
I feel the same way. I can read really fast and get to the juice of an article faster than it takes for the YouTube video to do through the introduction, sponsors, etc.
Watch veritasium videos, they are well researched and informative. I have sponsor block and ad block so I don’t get annoyed
Veritasium is not super high on my trustworthiness list after the self-driving car ad incident
The problem is those channels are very similar. I get tired of hearing the same thing again and again. There is really no need for weekly news
Oh and as if by magic, after I said something I received an email from a client bemoaning about the drop in youtube viewers. She reckons it is not only a drop in viewers but in viewing time as well. Mentioned bloody AI as well just because everybody is
Try peertube?
I think its because people don’t have money?
What does that have to do with being able to watch videos on a free ad supported platform?
Also this isn’t just something happening to LTT, this is happening across the board with many many channels speaking up about drop in views. YouTube did something and it’s hurting content creators both large and small
If someone can’t afford to be part of the hobby then they arnt goanna watch videos on that hobby
They’re going to move on. Find a new hobby that they can’t afford to participate in. Then find new creators that do content in that new hobby
Tech has priced out most of the lower and lower middle class. We can’t play anymore so we need to find something new to do
It may not be what that person meant, but, I kinda agree it might be a factor. The free experience has done nothing but become more and more terrible on youtube. The ads have become truly insufferable, and the UI is actively working against you. TV app in particular is borderline unwatchable.
I have always watched YouTube for free, and I am at a point where I am considering ditching the thing completely, because I am not paying another (quite expensive) subscription for it. I haven’t yet, but it has certainly slowed down how much I watch.
It’s so bad it’s even questioning some uses I had for the platform. I used to watch a video while I eat, stuff like that. What’s the point if I barely make it out of the initial ad tunnel just before dessert? And when I pause for just a minute to get something, I am immediately hit with another ad break as I resume?
Had a discussion with another creator buddy and they said it appeared that there was a load less scraping going on which inflated their viewer figures for months. I wonder if youtube is finally stopping their whole content being scraped perpetually?
I haven’t watched YouTube much since they broke the search. And that’s far from the only thing they broke, it’s just what stopped making the site very worthwhile to me. I’m sure I’m not the only one who’s significantly cut down or stopped using it.
If you are unhappy because your views went from 2M to 1M the decline is in your mental health
It’s the capitalism brain that says: If you are not growing you are dying
I mean, the problem is not lack of growth, the problem is losing the stable sustainable base.
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boaratio@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Fuck Linus.
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