Submitted 13 hours ago by mesamunefire@piefed.social to technology@lemmy.world
https://xn--gckvb8fzb.com/giving-up-on-element-and-matrixorg/
The thing is… What alternatives are there? Signal can’t be trusted (on the very same website there is an article about it). I’m not using closed source alternatives like session, Simplex is kinda shady too tbh and I’m not even sure I could get anyone to use it.
I don’t like Matrix/Element either but sadly its the best open source chat solution we have.
Going back to TS3 and IRC. They never left
xmpp mentioned, I’ll add IRC
Why don’t people trust Signal?
Its a 18 months old but OP means this on the same site. マリウス.com/if-you-must-use-signal-use-molly/
The blogger also stopped using proton mail. So idk. Seems to be their thing atm.
The article author went back to XMPP, which does appear to be the best option currently.
In what universe is XMPP better than Matrix?
xmpp?
I forgot to add nextcloud talk!
I am glad someone can admit it failed and we have to learn from this. I am just wondering what it takes to succeed.
I just want a self-hostable open-source alternative to the shitty closed-source IM systems I’m forced to use
I’m sticking with Matrix for now, hopefully some of the issues I’ve had will get ironed out
Nextcloud talk?
i want 90s era icq and 2000s era msn back :(
But they both closed source protocols locked down to specific corp
But locked in a way where nice third party clients could still interact with them. I never used official clients after a time.
That seems to have gone away.
A/S/L?
400/F/krynn oh sorry i was in the red dragon inn room :3
I am still mad that are no clients that supports multiple accounts. So I am ending up installing for each account a different client.
Fluffy chat allows multiple accounts
I like this client. Thanks for the tip.
NeoChat on KDE allows me to choose which account to login to when I start it.
Does it let you be logged in as both ?
I see what you did here. Say something wrong on the internet to get multiple helpful tips.
Element Desktop has profiles. But sadly there are no profiles on the mobile app.
github.com/matrix-construct/tuwunel
Plug for tuwunnel.
Easy to set up, and just works. I can’t share any of the OP’s annoyances - everything is fast. Admittedly, I don’t really use the web client.
I tried it, joined a couple rooms. Wanted to leave those public rooms but I kept getting notifications of rooms I already left.
Very wonky experience, so I dropped it and I use deltaChat now for my Tech-aware contacts
I wonder if Keet with every be open sourced. They still are missing a lot of features that I personally find important like trying notification, read receipt.
edent@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
I agree with all this. The thing which caused me to uninstall was suddenly being pushed lots of abusive message with disturbing contents.
When I complained about it, Matrix told me that my public complaints were hurting the ecosystem and I should be quiet.
AbnormalHumanBeing@lemmy.abnormalbeings.space 5 hours ago
I had a wild ride with matrix, originally wanting to run a node on my server. That did not turn out well, because I was a bit stupid and just assumed there would be more admin/mod tools out of the box. As it turned out, I had inadvertently allowed spam/abuse accounts on my node without even noticing, because naive as I was, I assumed my admin-level account would get informed of stuff like user registrations and abuse reports in the standard Element frontend. As a bonus, when I checked what was supposedly the official matrix support channel, it was repeatedly getting spammed with CSAM and gore at the time. That was when I realised, that it definitely was not the ecosystem for me, and running a node without experience had been a pretty stupid idea on my end.
brunoqc@piefed.ca 7 hours ago
Weird. I think they did some improvement to prevent those abusive messages but it took a while and it was embarrassing. Maybe it's hard to prevent them with a federated network but still, the abusive messages where basically a copy paste.