Why Americans Can’t Buy the World’s Best Electric Car

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• sturmblast@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Good, let’s do it. I’m tired of our tax money keeping shitty car companies floating.

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  • phx@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    And no competition. I’m pretty sure that they can shave some of the price off from that massive jump that came with COVID due to [checks list] “supply chain issues” and yet never went back down after…

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• LovableSidekick@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  When Americans of all political stripes eventually wake up to global realty - they’ll most likely do it lying on a sidewalk with their fingers in their ears saying na-na-na-na-na-na…

  People will eventually have to face that the economic golden age of the 1950s and 60s wasn’t a normal state we can return to if greedy billionaires just let us. The rich definitely grabbed the biggest share of the prosperity, but that brief era of prosperity wasn’t normal, it was entirely abnormal, and it’s been over for quite a while. We’ve been fooling ourselves and keeping it going for the last half century by living on credit, and that’s about to end.

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  • rottingleaf@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    That might be true, but also a certain revolutionary purging of world politics would do a lot to return to something close to that. The golden age happened after the world war and decolonization, when western countries were full of veterans, and laws governing their lives were much simpler.

    Internet-assisted direct democracy, open borders, open trade, radical changes in patent laws, simpler laws generally - all this can exist.

    We simply have too much legacy everywhere strangling development.

    The bad guys are trying to make it appear that the only legacy that can be stripped is that of French revolution ideals, human rights and civilization. That actually we don’t have to strip, that is all good. Just them.

    It’s normal. Sometimes humans need surgeries, and sometimes a part of an old building has to be dismantled - maybe there’s a pipe in the wall that leaks, or maybe you need to retrieve a human skeleton found using some new technology, whatever. And you throw out garbage regularly.

    So a reform for direct democracy (with ranked choice between variants having, say, 1000+ initial supporters in some incubator to get to the vote itself, because we have computers, storage and connectivity to make everything desirable for such) IMHO would go a long way to fixing half the problems in the world.

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    • LovableSidekick@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      We simply have too much legacy money everywhere strangling development.

      I think that’s the crux of it. Nobody with money to do big things is asking, “What does the world need?” They’re always asking, “What can I convince the world it needs so it will give me even more money, and how can I retain exclusive rights to it?”

      The human race absolute has the capacity to turn the world into a wonderful place for everybody, but those with the means to doing it are more motivated to acquire more and more for themselves, and most of the common people don’t trust the world enough to entertain sweeping proposals because what if it’s a trick.

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• Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Only if they chose not to compete

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  • Jimmycakes@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Have you seen those byd cars on YouTube. Their mid price cars look like high end Mercedes over here. Meanwhile Ford and Chevy will sell you a $75000 pickup with all plastic interior.

    None of the legacy companies are competing. Ever. The best we can hope for is rivian and other new players filling the gap.

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    • dgriffith@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I’ve test driven a few BYD models here in Australia. 50 thousand dollarydoos for an electric car that goes 400+km, can power your house in a blackout, has all the normal electric car performance (6 seconds to 100kmhr) and is chock full of user comforts and safety features.

      There are a LOT of these getting around in Brisbane, and for good reason. I didn’t get one this time round, but by the time the lease expires on my Volvo EX30 in 4 years, I’ll be looking pretty hard at BYD. Especially if they get their new solid state batteries going by then.

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  • interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    The income stream would disappear, their operations would collapse and that would just be the end. There would not be another manufacturer that would flourish in the void left behind. Without the institutional know how and the existing structure, supply chain the current car manufacturing industry would never be able to restart if it ever stopped.

    The social darwinism of the globalist free market is meant for crushing the spirit and bargaining power of individual workers, they are replaceable, disposable, interchangeable. General Motors and Ford aren’t.

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    • Jimmycakes@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I think that’s kind of the point. What the current case industry is doing is getting them smoked. They need to let go of the past the “institutional knowledge” that’s exactly why Ford and Chevy won’t compete with Chinese EV. Those are built from the ground up for the modern era with modern leadership modern supply chains building institutional knowledge that matters today and into the future.

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• Vinstaal0@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  BYD?

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  • MBech@feddit.dk ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Giant chinese car manufacturer. They’re the most popular PHEV Manufacturer in Australia and is rapidly growing in Europe.

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  • yessikg@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    The number 1 electric car company, they passed Tesla recently

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• Tiger666@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Really, why is that? Is it maybe you are too greedy and make garbage? Is it? Hun?

  Fuck executives.

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  • Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    That’s part of it, but it also helps that the Chinese government heavily subsidizes their auto industry.

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    • Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Tbf so do we

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• ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Sounds great, when do we start?

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• kn0wmad1c@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  I hate that villains set our country’s laws.

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• Don_alForno@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Also, slave labor.

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  • Bloomcole@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    LOL US cope
    Are the slaves in the room with us now?
    The only country with massive slave labor is the US with its prison system.
    Or their good friends the headchopper gulf states

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    • Soleos@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      There is plenty of modern slave labor and exploitation going around. No major manufacutring nation is innocent.

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• IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Because it’s available to anyone. Not just Chinese owned companies and every other auto maker has similar taxes.

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• mesamunefire@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  So Canada, how are they?

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  • SirMaple__@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    We can’t buy Chinese EV’s in Canada thanks to the 100% tariff imposed by the GoC. I wish they’d get rid of the tariff. Our cheapest EV option right now is the Fiat 500e and that starts at over $30,000.

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    • sommerset@thelemmy.club ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I guarantee u US pressured Canada into not allowing byd

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• shaggyb@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  That’s fine.

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• prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  I’d drive one

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• johsny@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Bring Your Drink.

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• ipitco@lemmybefree.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  How does it compare to tesla in terms of privacy, ownership (DRM) and stuff?

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  • timeghost@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Privacy in terms of a large, rolling chinese surveillance machine covered in cameras, mics and sensors, full of chips and sporting bluetooth, cellular and wifi? I’m sure it’s fine.

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    • ipitco@lemmybefree.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      USA is already at nightmare level, and the big difference is the USA will use it against you where China can’t really reach you

      Anyways, I would appreciate any proof or comparison between the two

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• finitebanjo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Lmao, Chinese shills are actual news now? Fucking low as it gets.

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• M0oP0o@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Good? Also is the american car sector not already dead from the us becoming a tariff issueing pariah state?

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• Gsus4@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Well, this is where specific targetted protectionist policies can work, provided they are used to buy time to catch up, to differentiate and for RnD and not just to bury your head in the sand and keep making expensive shit products.

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• bss03@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Whatever can be destroyed by the truth should be destroyed by the truth. (quoteinvestigator.com/2016/03/13/destroy/)

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