cnn.com/…/pennsylvania-school-lunch-debt-trnd
Unless this is happening again, this story is from 2019. Still bad, just not recent
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cnn.com/…/pennsylvania-school-lunch-debt-trnd
Unless this is happening again, this story is from 2019. Still bad, just not recent
Yeah, it’s from 2019. The original article the bitly link went to is gone but it’s still on archive
If every American learned what citizens in other 1st world countries have that we don’t, there would be a revolution tomorrow.
A lot of them know but choose to look away because “mUh FrEeDoM”
“Fuck free healthcare, education, food quality standards, safety regulations,y right to own guns is more important than all that, and fuck them (school shooting) kids”
Signed -america’s “patriots”
Grew up with lunch debt as a kid and that headline boils my blood in ways I probably shouldn’t say out loud.
The same as debtors prison, how is that supposed to fix anything? Accomplishes literally nothing other than punishing people for being poor.
how about you start punishing companies for not paying people a livable wage?
Unfortunately nothing new. I remember as a kid that if you didn’t have money in your lunch account, your lunch was taken away and if you were lucky they’d have a peanut butter sandwich for you.
If you were in a negative balance, such as if your parents were unable to pay, then you’d also be restricted from certain activities and pressured to make your parents pay what was owed.
I’m from this region of Pennsylvania. Abuse and bullying is protected by the culture of this region. The sheriff’s office has done mass murders against strikers in the coal fields. 1860’s I believe. This guy stepped down. But his sentiment carries far in the community. It’s a bigoted hate filled hole.
A literal gun cult is financing far right radicals into local politics. A hate group is trying to force schools to out children who say they are gay. And YouTube protects their account where they post hours of hate content.
I worked with the president of the group before. He was fired from his job because he was accused of stealing $15,000.
Imagine going into lunch debt for horrible cafeteria food
And they have the nerve to ask why people aren’t having kids anymore
not jealous of the Chadian infantry who are going to have to liberate Pennsylvania when the regime shatters
You wanna eat?
You want to eat?
No more parents!
I think school lunch should cost something, but very little, just so the kids can understand the value of money
like a dollar per lunch isnt that much at all
but it shouldn’t place a large financial strain on poor families
You know, fuck you.
Now that we have that out of the way: Kids can learn the value of money without going hungry. Let them work in the garden or pick up a weekend job, let them buy something they really want for themselves and boom, they learn about it. but don’t deny them fucking food because they can’t pay for it.
everyone has at least a dollar
and if they don’t then have the lunch be further subsidized
but the cost should be just above $0
If you’re just going to assign an arbitrary token amount to charge for the food then how will that teach the kids the value of money? And since the kids themselves wouldn’t be the ones actually paying for the meal it’s still a disconnected symbolic gesture unlikely to impart any lifelong lessons. You’re going to be spending more effort and potentially money in tracking and enforcing payments for the meals than what you’re going to recoup by (under)charging for them. How about, since everyone is already paying taxes toward education, we just allocate some of those funds to providing food for every student/child if they are actually intended to be the future productive members and leaders of society?
I would think a better method to teach the value of money is to explain the economies of scale and couple that with showing how much planning and work goes into providing and preparing the “free” meals so they aren’t taken for granted as just being manna from heaven.
just allocate some of those funds to providing food for every student
yeah 90%+ of the cost would be covered and the rest would be small enough that it wouldnt place a financial burden on anyone
This take can get fucked.
I’m not sure you understand that anyone can afford to pay a small enough sum for food
the point isn’t that the money will cover the cost
if lunch costs less than a dollar every single kid will be able to pay that and if they don’t their teacher could easily provide because of how small a sum of money that is
ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
If you want to look at this situation from an economic point of view … what’s cheaper?
Pay a kids lunch every day for about 12-14 years … and for a growing kid, the price wouldn’t be that much, especially if you are paying in bulk amounts for hundreds or thousands of kids.
or
Don’t pay their lunch, let the parents go into debt, take the kids into foster care … now you as the government have to pay for legal expenses to take the kid away, expenses to have police and social service workers to do the work, foster expenses to house the kid and care for them (now you are having to pay for every single meal for them for years), give up the kid once they become of age and go out on their own after foster care as a disillusioned, angry and frustrated young man or woman who will more than likely end up on the street dealing drugs, crime or prostitution … who will then grow up causing or contributing to crime and increasing the costs of police, legal, emergency health care, security and penitentiary … and chances are they will have children who will end up at school not being able to pay for their lunch
…
If you pay to help the kid when they are young, there is more of a chance they will grow up to be a contributing healthy member of society. If you don’t they will become a lifelong burden on society and cause endless expenses that will be far more money than any school lunches you could have bought when they were ten years old.
dohpaz42@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Those in power do lot want a co tribute healthy member of society. They want malleable, docile workers that will do as they’re told and not challenge the system.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I disagree. What they want is to threaten those they see as inferior. It’s a power trip borne from an ideological feedback loop. Sense and goals are secondary to “poor people need to take responsibility for feeding their children, I’m not paying for their decisions”.
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
I don’t even want to look at it from that perspective. As civilized society we need to feed and educate children. All of them. Economics can be figured out for sure, but if this is a priority we can certainly make it happen.