I can make it happen during a Steam summer sale 4 years later. Borderlands 3 wasn’t that great when you compare it to 1 and 2. I can wait.
$80 for Borderlands 4 too costly? Randy Pitchford says, "If you're a real fan, you'll find a way to make it happen"
Submitted 1 year ago by inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world to games@lemmy.world
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nthavoc@lemmy.today 1 year ago
Vlyn@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
I don’t condone this, but we already had $60 games 10 years ago. If you simply add inflation you’d be at $81 today. That doesn’t even take into account that modern games also have larger budgets compared to back then.
Video games really are a cheap hobby comparatively speaking. I still wait for sales of course :)
gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 year ago
That doesn’t even take into account that modern games also have larger budgets compared to back then.
It also doesn’t take into account how much more they make even at the lower price points
If game companies want more money for their games they can start by cutting the worthless CEOs, not raising prices
Vlyn@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
Actually around half the budget of an AAA game is just marketing cost. Which feels wasteful, but if you need to recoup hundreds of millions it might be necessary.
mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Games have also gotten massively cheaper due to distribute due to digital downloads being the most common, and they’re making way more sales due to gaming having a much larger audience.
The main reason these games have ridiculously inflated budgets are because execs are pushing for more management, which in turn push for oversized teams making design-by-committee out of fear of making something people don’t like. The gamin industry doesn’t get to make excuses anymore. Them being unable to reign in their development budgets aren’t our problem. They need to figure out how to offer games at a lower price, because they’re going to run out of customers willing to pay otherwise
Vlyn@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
Actually around half the budget of an AAA game is just marketing cost. Which feels wasteful, but if you need to recoup hundreds of millions it might be necessary.
dermanus@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
Games have been surprisingly inflation resistant. I paid $70 for Playstation games in the 90s.
ISolox@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I’m a huge borderlands fan. I will not be buying this for $80 lol.
sturmblast@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Or we’ll boycott you shit ass companies
Exusia@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Randy pitchford?
THAT Randy Pitchford? The Randy Pitchford that, because he loves magic tricks, downloaded himself some squirt porn (sfw youtube link to moistcritical) and then left it at a Midieval Times? The same Randy that grabbed the Claptrap VA by the junk because he was tired of voicing Claptrap for free and had the audacity to ask to be paid so Pitchford tried to intimidate him? The same Randy Pitchford that somehow “lost” “lost” 10 million dollars of Segas money causing Colonial marines to bomb.
Fuck that guy.
CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml 1 year ago
Holy shit, I knew about the “magic trick” girl and thought he was a quirky funny man, but assaulting an artist to force them to work for free? What a fucking asshole
Exusia@lemmy.world 1 year ago
If I recall the feud correctly, Eddings previously worked on Claptrap as a favor for free (or next to it). As far as the back and forth on Twitter indicates, when he said he wanted “Id like to be paid this time”, Pitchford initially pushed back, and then offered “2x union rates” (whether Pitchford actually offered that or said it on twitter afterward to garner sympathy we may never know), but Eddings refused the offer since gearbox was (at the time) about to make its 3rd lootershooter in a monsterously successful chain and he was pne of the most prominent side characters.
Jim sterling has almost an hour or more worth of videos (a 30m and a few 5-7m) I can link specifically about Pitchford. Working for Destructoid at the time of Colonial Marines, they held an interview with Pitchford who lied to their face about features of the game, and so made it a personal mission to keep Randy accountable.
Pitchford must have had an issue with Destructoid running him through the gutter for Colonial Marines, and the Borderlands 2 mission BFFs features 4 characters in a Mexican standoff for stealing money. (What an oddly on the nose mission eh?) All 4 have names of Destructoid staff, with the thief being named “Jim” - but I’m sure that’s just a coincidence and not a ceo being petty right.
Bro is a blight on Gearbox. And Noone is sure how or why the board hasn’t gotten rid of him.
finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I hear he also collected child porn, citation needed.
brsrklf@jlai.lu 1 year ago
No, no, you don’t understand, the girl was doing a magic trick! He only consumed that just barely legal content with professional interest in mind.
Exusia@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I’m not gonna sit and tell a man he can’t have a kink preference in his own home on his own time.
But Jesus fuck on the company thumb drive? Theyre $12 for a 128Gb one on Amazon. And then to be so distracted he forgot it.
Goretantath@lemm.ee 1 year ago
I can make it happen? Okeydokey! 🏴☠️
leavemealone@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Too much games to play on the market to justify the urgency to buy it at release for 80 bucks. they now compete with free to play, gamepass, Indy games, piracy, and tons of past games with lower cost.
The fomo of newly released games is low when most games are released in shitty state and need 1/2 months of patches/fixes and that’s not even taking in consideration that the best experience is when all the dlcs are released and make the game finally complete.
The AAA industry is fucked. In a world where quality games are released each weeks they are often but even the best way to have fun with our limited time, like tepid Ubisoft games…
Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
Honestly, in my opinion, there’s too many games to justify buying it at all. I enjoyed one and two when I was a kid, and there wasn’t competition for the genre. Three I think was free on Epic or something, so I played and it was fine, but not great. I don’t expect much from four, and there’s companies I’d actually like to support instead.
leavemealone@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
I can’t tell you exactly why, but as much as I played and replayed borderlands 1&2, the third one didn’t interest me at all, I can see that the recipe used the same ingredients but it just didn’t taste the same to contribute the metaphor. It just bored me and my wife during our coop campaign, and we didn’t have any desire to continue our playthrough. I hope they get it back with four but I don’t trust them enough anymore to buy it blindly anyway.
WarlordSdocy@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Yeah I’m really starting to feel like we’re gonna see a lot of these companies shift from doing big AAA games to instead publishing small indie games. Almost all of these big companies have indie publishing arms now and as they start to see good profits from those without having to take on the cost of paying devs themselves I wouldn’t be surprised if they start cutting back on their own dev teams and shifting to that.
leavemealone@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Honestly I am all for if it means that we get original games again from big studios, I can’t get hyped anymore for yet another sequel or remaster.
newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Lol Randy actively taking the winds out of his own sails.
I hope he rots in piss.
TheHobbyist@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
The video game landscape is already filled to the brims with more games than I need to play for the rest of my life and you want me to hurry up to pay for a game as it comes out, to ditch out the full price when my computer would suffer for the lack of latest gen hardware when I could easily find a large amount of fantastic games for less than 10 bucks and comfortably max out their settings?
Like, the witcher 3 with all its DLC, a fantastic game which is 10 years old but got a free graphics upgrade and with all its DLC, worth hundreds of hours of gameplay and a memorable experience is less than 10 bucks, as we speak, both on steam and gog.
Most people already have more games than they have time to play. Patient gamer has never been more rewarding. We fall too often for the fear of missing out the experience of missing out on the hype of a new launch…
I finished GTA 4 and 5 like a year ago, on my steam deck. I couldn’t care less if these games came out like 10 years ago. It gives me the flexibility to play them how I want to.
Robust_Mirror@aussie.zone 1 year ago
100% agree. I no joke own about 900 games I haven’t played between steam (most bought when I was young and naive, probably bought like 10 games in the last 10 years now I know better), epic free games, and playstation plus monthly “free” games (not even counting the catalogue you now get access to), yes they’re technically not entirely free but I’d be paying for plus regardless so they kinda are.
Now as a lot of these games weren’t chosen by me, by no means do I want to play them all, and some are duplicates across platforms. But if even 10% interest me, that’s still 90 games. I probably play games at a rate slower than 1 per month. That’s years of games to me. And more will be stacking up in that time. I haven’t bought a game in like 3 years and it’s entirely possible I’ll never buy a game again at this rate.
Gerudo@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Looks like fitgirl will be getting my business instead
modifier@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
Found a way!
Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 1 year ago
If Randy Pitchford was a real CEO he would find a way to make $60 games
newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 1 year ago
He’s too busy collecting child porn to bother with running his business.
Kbobabob@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Uh, source? It seems like if this were true he’d be in cuffs.
IzzyJ@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I will never buy the game out of spite
Vipsu@lemmy.world 1 year ago
My game backlog has reached mars so I am in no hurry. Still havent even started tiny tina’s wonderlands.
Hermit_Lailoken@lemmy.world 1 year ago
That’s what he thinks.
acosmichippo@lemmy.world 1 year ago
mm yes gatekeeping and money shaming, that’ll convince them.
Neuromorph@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Yarrow. Matey. Captains orders are to take to the high seas!!!
detun3d@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Not a fan. Borderlands 3 made it happen.
CrowAirbrush@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I found a way already, it’s called patience. Works well for basically any non nintendo game.
smeg@feddit.uk 1 year ago
You can still (for the moment) be patient with Nintendo games if you’re OK buying second hand
mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Or just pirate and emulate Nintendo games. They’re such scumbags that they make piracy morally correct
CrowAirbrush@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I solved that by moving to pc and forgetting about Nintendo’s existence.
TwoBeeSan@lemmy.world 1 year ago
SUS USB Randy Pitchford?
Zess@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Likely pedophile Randy Pitchford.
DrCake@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Well guess I ain’t a massive fan then. Shame
8bittech@lemmy.world 1 year ago
They never fixed the bugs in Borderlands 3. Let me rush out and get this
Tattorack@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I’m OK with not being a “real fan”.
LordWiggle@lemmy.world 1 year ago
If you’re a real fan, Randy, you find a way not to fuck up the franchise, but so far after Borderlands 2 you managed to deliver us disappointment after disappointment. So fuck off, I’ll pirate 4 to play it for 3 to 4 hours after which I’ll delete is because it sucks as expected. If I manage to reach 40 hours of gameplay, which is 2 euros per hour, I’ll buy your game. But we both know this isn’t going to happen, right Randy?
johsny@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Yeah, no.
_haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Hi Randy, fuck off lol
bungle_in_the_jungle@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Shut up. Dingus.
HuskerNation@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
I was excited for borderlands. Now I’ll wait for them to make it 70% off
kmartburrito@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I’m really bad about buying new games at launch where I like the franchise and getting burned (looking at you bf2042).
However with all of the stupid politics, tariffs, and recession coming in the US, I’m sure the hell not buying this at $80, even if I’m a long term borderlands fan. I have way too many games in my library I should be playing/finishing anyway.
I hope others speak with their wallets as well.
Jaeger86@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Randy’s a twat. I’ll pick that shit up for $20 next Christmas
madame_gaymes@programming.dev 1 year ago
🏴
psx_crab@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
I got Borderlands 3 free on Epic Games, and it still sit there not being played. Guess it’s time to leave this franchise for good.