Peppermint is always left out. That is the perfect on for just working, stable and easy to move to from windows. It’s also lightweight and fast.
End of 10 is a campaign to move people over to Linux with Windows 10 support ending
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LoveSausage@discuss.tchncs.de 2 hours ago
SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 5 hours ago
Might want to have some people a hit more coherent on which version of Linux so they don’t get frustrated. Some people are jumping to distros that I’ve never heard of and getting annoyed it’s not windows. Like yea no kidding Justin Bieber OS isn’t getting updates. And your 3k series Nvidia isn’t working. Switch to Hanna Montana DE like the rest of us.
paerrin@midwest.social 5 hours ago
Switched to CachyOS a couple months ago and haven’t looked back. Everything works right out the box including NVIDIA cards. Recommended it to a coworker to check out and he switched from Windows a month ago.
lvxferre@mander.xyz 1 day ago
Download a new OS // Download the operating system you want to install. Search for Linux distributions for beginners to get some suggestions.
I feel like it’s better to actually list/suggest a few beginner distros than to tell people to look it up.
endeavor@sopuli.xyz 5 hours ago
I went fedora which is not a beginner system and even fedora is easier than windows.
Common suggestions are: mint, pop os, endeavourOS. But it doesn’t matter, they are all functional OS that let you do everything.
ICastFist@programming.dev 1 day ago
Linux Mint (XFCE desktop) is the best for beginners coming from Windows, in my opinion. Linux enthusiasts will fawn over KDE because of customization, but they ignore that the vast majority of people don’t want to spend months tweaking pixels, widgets and animations, they just want to use the computer.
endeavor@sopuli.xyz 5 hours ago
I have gnome and KDE fedoras on my two pcs. Gnome is a lot more work to tweak it and add some basic functionality(lmao at enabling right click to create new file). KDE is just fine out of the box. Nobody is forced to tweak KDE, you can if you want to.
KDE also has fun stuff like kde connect that lets you connect your phone to your pc and receive and answer to texts and other notifications, send clipboards and files. Something that is a ridiculous upgrade in QOL and its insane windows does not have it. Gnome also gets it but you need to install extension manager and search for it.
lvxferre@mander.xyz 1 day ago
My point is that the site should be recommending a few newbie distros, instead of telling the newbie to search it. for them.to look it up. Specially because the choice of a distribution isn’t that meaningful. out", instead of telling them to search it.
That said I agree Mint would be a good choice. Not sure on Xfce; I’d probably recommend Cinnamon instead, as it looks a bit more modern (even if myself would rather use MATE or Xfce than Cinnamon).
brb@sh.itjust.works 16 hours ago
Mint looks pretty dated tho. I would go with Kubuntu because it looks pretty similar to Windows and is sleek and modern even without any customizations
Blackmist@feddit.uk 1 day ago
Realistically, the best distro for a Windows user is one that runs all their existing Windows software (both applications and games) right out of the box.
Does any distro even come close to doing that?
ProvableGecko@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Why do you suggest Mint over Ubuntu?
Broken@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
As a newer Linux user I think the priority in communication should be use Mint and then have some general information about how Linux isn’t Windows, with some key differences and how to do things. I know that’s more complicated than just saying it, but a “simple” get started guide would ease transition a lot.
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 11 hours ago
I think it doesn’t actually matter what distro you use.
It’s like whether you’re wearing red socks or blue socks. As long as you’re wearing socks, so you don’t get cold, any will do.
lvxferre@mander.xyz 8 hours ago
Myself mentioned a bit below that the choice of a distribution isn’t that meaningful in the long run. But I still think that some distros should be recommended - otherwise the newbie simply says “Hannah Montana Linux, Justin Bieber Linux, Ubuntu Satanic Edition… bleeergh I can’t choose, I give up”.
Zoop@beehaw.org 1 day ago
Yeah, I agree. Especially since there’s SO much information out there that’ll come up if they try to search, and lots of it isn’t good, and tons of it is conflicting with each other. It’s best to make it as easy and simple as possible. Like just suggest Mint or something.
Blackmist@feddit.uk 1 day ago
I recommend Gentoo for a beginner.
What better way to understand your new OS than by compiling it from scratch?
Scary_le_Poo@beehaw.org 1 day ago
Zorin OS is going to be the best for windows refugees. It is so far ahead in this area that it isn’t even remotely close.
I don’t know why people keep trotting out mint. Mint has far too many issues to be a serious suggestion.
HayadSont@discuss.online 1 day ago
Mint has far too many issues to be a serious suggestion.
Would you mind elaborating on that?
aivoton@sopuli.xyz 16 hours ago
Been on linux for almost half a year now. Don’t miss a single bit of windows, thanks to steam proton. Also thanks to microsoft for pushing me over.
endeavor@sopuli.xyz 6 hours ago
Same here. I do not miss all the shit windows did. Things like:
- starting drivers manually to use graphics tablet
- finding drivers for hardware that work
- random driver crashes for various pieces of hardware I have
- BSODs
- rummaging around settings, configs and regedit to get something to work a bit better
- disabling things you don’t want through regedit or some hidden config
- uninstallable bloatware
- ads everywhere
- super key + type in the program you want to open not working
- messing around with tons of files for old games to work
- going through shady sites to get software
- not having a software center for all your downloads
- needing to install weird programs for sftp support
ironically half these things are what people think is the linux ux. Seriously, windows is just terrible, clunky, buggy and full of things you need to be an advanced user to fix.
SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 5 hours ago
Mints file explorer when moving large files does leave some meat on the bone for me.
killerscene@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 hours ago
what distro do you use? im looking into moving from windows, but currently use apple devices to sync my music to my phone so im on hold for now
paerrin@midwest.social 5 hours ago
Been on CachyOS for a couple months now. If you want to go Arch, I highly recommend it. No issues with NVIDIA drivers or any of my other hardware. The only thing I need Windows for anymore is Solidworks.
sdfric88@lemmy.sdf.org 16 hours ago
I’m a very recent convert. I downloaded mint a couple months ago after seeing that my entire steam library was rated as highly compatible on protondb. At first I planned to dual boot but I didn’t have any reason at all to use windows and finally just took the plunge and made Mint my daily, and sole, driver
endeavor@sopuli.xyz 5 hours ago
I also went cold turkey to fedora and once I solved my two main problems: disabling secureboot and formatting my steam library to be a linux filesystem, I have a better ux overall. Now I’m looking to move to endeavourOS since fedora is too fast with its updates which breaks nvidia drivers sometimes. (Which just means I restart while the pc is booting and select an earlier version of the OS)
tempest@lemmy.ca 16 hours ago
As much as people complain about electron (some valid, some not) Linux has benefited quite a bit to the cross platform availability of local applications.
solsangraal@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
the copilot nonsense really irked me, but it was then they had the gumption to force this absurd recall bullshit on everyone–that’s when i said i’m done, no more windows, no more M$
it’s obviously a “feature” they sold to senior executive board members so that middle managers could spy on their cubicle drones, but to have the gumption to try and convince the world that this was something we wanted? get fucked microsoft
Photuris@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
It’s more than that. They want training data for their LLMs. With enough training data, they can train these models to do office knowledge work themselves, removing the need to employ cubicle drones at all.
Damage@feddit.it 1 day ago
That’s what free software advocates have been telling everyone for decades. When you use proprietary software licensed to you, you have no agency in what becomes of it, they can force you to accept changes that you don’t agree with, violate your privacy, take what you thought you owned from you.
People give up freedom for convenience and treat those that don’t as crazy misguided idealists, thinking they’re fools for using less convenient and sometimes powerful fools for pointless principles only they care about… Meanwhile, if everyone was just a tiny bit like the crazy idealists, these companies wouldn’t be able to abuse their position because a modicum of resistance from everyone would be an overwhelming force for them.
Some will say it’s dumb being idealist about computer software, but aside from computer software being serious fucking business, the practices of these companies are what birthed disposable, unrepairable electronics, privacy erosion, robber AIs and so on. Do you think a tech industry dominated by free software supporters would have allowed the rise of people like Bezos, Zuckerberg or Musk?
bampop@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
Is it necessary though? Microsoft have already been campaigning pretty hard to get people to switch to Linux. Telling people their perfectly good PCs won’t work anymore because the operating system is expiring, and they can’t even “upgrade” to Windows 11 is a pretty powerful message.
sommerset@thelemmy.club 16 hours ago
Jeez. Pathetic losers. On Linux for 15 years never thought of going back.
And u know what? It was harder back in the days nowadays all software is in the browser anyways so what are u even missing.Aux@feddit.uk 2 hours ago
It’s funny, you’re using Linux for 15 years, but you’re still 15 years old…
endeavor@sopuli.xyz 5 hours ago
I tried ubuntu 15 years ago since it was the easiest. It was hell. Now linux is a more functional OS than windows is that asks the user to do even less in order to have everything working.
SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 5 hours ago
Ubuntu 12.04 was nice for desktop users. It just didn’t do anything good for gaming at the time.
Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 19 hours ago
This weekend I want to make a pointnto finally begin the transition to Linux…
endeavor@sopuli.xyz 5 hours ago
You will be pleasantly surprised, I hope!
bedbeard@feddit.uk 1 day ago
Dabbled with Linux over the years but have finally made the jump to using it as my primary OS. I tried a bunch of distros and settled on the elegant simplicity of Mint. Every game has worked just… fine.
It feels genuinely refreshing to know nothing will change without my consent, I know I will not login one day to find a surprise cortana/copilot/clippy icon in the taskbar or an ad for Avowed waiting for me. I can’t believe that is even considered a ‘pro’, but here we are.
DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
AMD or NVIDIA user?
bedbeard@feddit.uk 1 day ago
AMD. I think if I had nvidia I might’ve gone for Pop OS, I heard that has good support for them out the box.
BigBenis@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I’m going to be migrating to Linux and using Mint. I’m just paranoid about doing something wrong and accidentally walking into a security vulnerability. So I want to set aside time to properly learn things and understand what I’m doing but I’m just busy AF these days…
endeavor@sopuli.xyz 5 hours ago
This is a very valid and smart concern to have. But the scary commands all start with “sudo”, which gives everything you type in root access. Other than that linux is very secure and idiot proof as long as you read what the commands do.
misteloct@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
Take it slow and do it the right way, don’t let Lemmy pressure you if you’re making slow but steady progress. It’s a learning curve for sure
spicehoarder@lemm.ee 1 day ago
I have four pieces of advice
- btrfs file system for easy backup and recovery
- Encrypt your drive
- use an ad blocker everywhere
- use virus total to scan anything you might be wary of, and if you really feel like you need an AV, they do exist for Linux.
I usually prefer Debian based systems, but when I finally ditched windows 3 weeks ago, I switched to Manjaro, and I’m loving it. You got this!
MITM0@lemmy.world 1 day ago
What’s wrong with EXT4 ?
tomjuggler@lemmy.world 1 day ago
If you are worried about disk space don’t use backup on btrfs though it fills up yr drive I never encrypt my drive but maybe you should Manjaro is great though!
endeavor@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
Basically don’t run random sudo(superuser do, root access) commands you find on the internet without reading what the command does from docs or asking ai.
Leaving windows makes you more secure.
smokeymcpott@feddit.org 1 day ago
Agreed.
Had the same problem with the Steam library on a Windows filesystem and some annoyances with NTFS drives.
Other than that, pretty easy overall (you have to tinker around with some games and wineversions though)
kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
I feel like eveyone should reccomend Fedora KDE edition, its close enough to Windows for new users and modern enough to not push people away.
endeavor@sopuli.xyz 5 hours ago
I have KDE on my laptop and gnome on my desktop. Beyond basic custiomization like icons, background, loading screen animation and some hot corners and shortcuts I don’t feel the need to touch it and it just works.
I don’t want to reccomend fedora since you need to add your own nvidia drivers. I’m looking to move to bazzite or endevourOS myself. Bazzite seems to be super easy to install and “gaming os” just seems to mean “its linux but steam and nvidia repo is preinstalled”
paerrin@midwest.social 5 hours ago
Check out CachyOS as well.
kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 hours ago
Most people who just have a PC don’t have a DGPU, for those who do the built in open source driver is good enough for 99% of use cases. People heavily exaggerate how much you need the proprietary drivers and you can always install them later if you really want (its not needed in the vast majority of cases to get it booting).
JackAttack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
People have their gripes over the “big corporation” side of this but I also daily drive fedora KDE and I love it. My only complaint is 2 things.
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Wireless shuts off after long periods of sleep. Suck if I’m torrenting my Linux isos.
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Very rarely it’ll freeze up and I need to hard restart.
Both of which could be a me issue. But besides that it’s a beautiful, easily and highly customizable system. Highly reccomend as well.
Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
I also have issue number 2 with fedora KDE (kinoite). It’s happened like 3 times in the past several months
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LogicalDrivel@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
Ive been seriously looking into making the switch. After some reading I decided Mint would be the easiest transition and downloaded the ISO to try it out with a USB boot. Im sure its a fluke, but since I have dual monitors the display was messed up and whenever I tried to fix it the entire GUI went away on both monitors and wouldn’t recover. I had to force power off the machine and ive been hesitant since then to make the actual switch. Id hate to brick my machine right off the bat, just trying to swap display sources.
PlutoniumAcid@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Please give it another go. I think you’re right, thrt was a fluke.
accideath@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I’ve heard that happen with mint before. Try a bit more modern distro like fedora or openSUSE maybe?
Scary_le_Poo@beehaw.org 1 day ago
Mint is the one everyone touts, but mint is pretty shit tbh. Check out Zorin OS. I have a funky triple display setup and it handled it like a champ. Also UX/UI on Zorin is fantastic. There is GUI for everything.
Lycist@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I had a bit of trouble like that too… Tried Ubuntu and my 2nd display would have static bursts going through the middle horizontally. Couldn’t figure out a fix, tried out Fedora and had no problems.
Damage@feddit.it 1 day ago
As a long time Fedora user, it’s difficult to convince other Linux users of how reliable it is. I’ve used it on multiple computers for I think about a decade and I’ve rarely had problems, certainly fewer than I had with Windows.
Last week I finally parted with standard Fedora to try out an immutable version, right now it’s Bazzite… I’ve got to say it’s very cool, for some things it may be better for beginners, but for most I’d say it’s better to stick to the normal ones.
I think it’s better with KDE, though, especially if you’ve got multiple monitors with different pixel densities.
lay@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
As a 15 years old pc user who likes to play games with a 15 years old nvidia graphics card. The only thing that’s preventing me from fully migrating to linux is the fact that nvidia doesn’t support my gpu anymore, so no proprietary driver, unless, I use a 6 years old kernel version.
The only choice I have for modren distros is the nouveau drivers, which lacks behind alot specially when it comes to gaming. I now have a dual boot setup running Popos and windows, but still I can’t be fully free from Windows, having to reboot every time I feel like playing something. I hope in the near future I get less broke to buy a new conputer or maybe the new nvk drivers will supports my gpu which is unlikely.Jankatarch@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Dualbooting is great. Whole idea of linux is “you can tinker in any way you see fit” and putting multiple OS on a single computer is one example.
Fact that you did this at 15 is impressive btw. Willing to mess around with computers is a real skill. Half the CS students in my college had hard time setting up a fedora VM by themselves for UNIX class.
You are already ahead of actual college students in this field lol. You learnt more about computers thanks to old GPU.
ziggurat@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Which graphics card?
lay@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
Quadro 2000M, it’s a miracle that it support dx12 games.
Ravenfreak@discuss.online 1 day ago
Honestly I don’t mind 11. It’s miles better than 10 ever was IMO. However with that being said, Linux is better. I have to dual boot Windows 11 on my computer because unfortunately there’s no way I can use my Elgato Capture Device on a Linux machine.
misteloct@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
I downvoted you for not minding Windows 11 🐵
PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
Alright, I need to move my main desktop to linux. Help me decide which distribution. Note that I already run a desktop-less server on Debian, a raspi on their flavor of deb and have a laptop I rarely use on fedora.
My main desktop PC is on windows and I wanna switch but im not sure which distro to switch to. The thing needs to be gaming ready for 2024 hardware. Debian is too slow to update for such a use case, I dont jive with Ubuntu philosophy, Arch is… im just not that kind of guy… so Im leaning on Fedora but I kinda dont like that it has 100 updates every time I boot it up. Is there any in between? Stable and quick with updates, but not when updates can crash the thing?
Psythik@lemm.ee 1 day ago
How can I convince the GF to switch? She only plays The Sims and the occasional hentai game; her Skylake i5 and 1050ti are more than adequate for those tasks. Yet she refuses to switch; won’t even let me install LTSC to buy some time.
I think she just wants an excuse to buy a new laptop. She’s the kind of person who replaces her shower curtain every six months, rather than do the sane thing and simply wash it. I’ll never understand such a wasteful mentality.
Kultronx@lemmygrad.ml 1 day ago
My laptop is about 7 years old now, I think I will do this actually, thanks for the tip comrade
diykeyboards@lemmy.world 1 day ago
With no Adobe CC on Linux, I’m stuck on W10 for the foreseeable future. Otherwise I’d have already switched.
lightnsfw@reddthat.com 1 day ago
I am trying Linux but it’s not going well. I still might stick with it but it’s more because of Windows getting worse than Linux being better. Right now it’s come down to an evaluation of which things I want to not be able to do anymore because Linux doesn’t support everything I currently do or the alternative is ass or will require an inordinate amount of research to get set back up.
doingthestuff@lemy.lol 1 day ago
Microsoft Access and Publisher, the Adobe suite, VR. That’s just the tip of the iceberg of why I can’t completely abandon Windows, yet. I do have a handful of older PCs running Mint though, and I’ll be switching over more. But not all of them.
cortex7979@lemm.ee 1 day ago
How can I play cracked the last of us on my popOS sytsem?
Scary_le_Poo@beehaw.org 1 day ago
Zorin OS is the distro for windows refugees. Nothing else even comes close.
Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 1 day ago
You know what? Just because of this I am going to proprietary BLOB even harder
spooky2092@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
Tried using Alma on my rig at home (since I’m using it on my servers), and I’m already going to be looking for a new distro. Went back to it after a week or so not having the energy to deal with it and apps like Firefox and steam wouldn’t launch.
Need to find a decent OS to run in its place so I can stop booting to Win10
eronth@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 hours ago
Switched to Mint recently. So far it’s been smoother than I expected, but still had some crazy rough patches. Luckily, helping me through this junk seems to be one of the things AI excels at. I’m set up mostly how I want to be and it’s been mostly working well enough so far. Mostly.
vga@sopuli.xyz 3 hours ago
Mint’s popularity is unfortunate because it (the last time I checked) defaults to X11, which gives you a desktop built on technology from 1984.
obvs@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
It’s actually comments like this which will scare people the hell away from trying Linux.
daggermoon@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
I’d be more worried about the lack of HDR support. Shame they killed off the Plasma edition. To anyone considering using Mint you can install Plasma on top of it with ease and get a modern desktop that supports HDR. If you don’t have an HDR monitor then Cinnamon is great.