Submitted 4 weeks ago by kingofras@lemmy.world to fediverse@lemmy.world
https://files.catbox.moe/yrae55.mp4
cross-posted from: lemmy.world/post/27423053
[Video] ICE arrests PhD student
Friendly reminder that we can FOIA first and last names of every ICE employee and their salary, and position/title.
Every last one of them.
It’s a good and legal public list just waiting to be collected nice and legally, and shared with the taxpayers as per our still existing rights.
This assumes the department or people involved with fulfilling these requests hasn’t already been compromised or shut down. The request means nothing when it never gets looked at.
Ultimately, this would come down to the judiciary. They could stonewall all they want. Those documents are on file, and you better believe the judiciary will exercise every ounce of strength they’ve got.
It might get delayed unduly for quite some time, but those names are the public’s. Not a damn thing any person who decided to accept the job can do about that to stop the public.
They’re right. I’m not defending the ban, but it is political by definition.
ICE is following Trump’s orders, which are an unconstitutional violation of the Fifth Amendment. When the Alien Enemies Act was used during WWII, even the Nazis had due process before being deported.
ICE’s actions are political.
Discussing ICE’s actions is not necessarily political, unless you consider human rights violations to be necessarily political as a topic.
Silencing discussion of human rights violations implies tacit support for the action, so I guess we know now where .ml stands. Any claim of leftist ideology on their part is a sham, they just have a hard-on for authoritarians.
Of course its political, what else would it be? You are talking about peoples rights (a political concept) being breached by an administration (poltical) using an atm of the government (political) as a paramilitary force (political).
Also, the community we’re in has a rule against moderation complaints, so I would really crosspost to !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Nothing says “we are a free and open community that welcomes others” like moderators banning discussion of poor moderation.
Yes, I do understand what the rule is there for. No that doesn’t make it any less hilariously shitty.
I prefer !fediverse@lemmy.zip , just for the non delay with aussie.zone lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/40460535
Thx. I saw the rule. @ mods I’m fine if you want to remove this.
I think federation needs to be better explained possibly here either with a sticky or sidebar. And a diagram of who we are federated with and not that’s live updated would be helpful too.
Thanks for all the work you guys do
At the bottom of the page on every Lemmy instance there’s a link that will show you the instances it’s federated and de-federated from. Look for the link labeled ‘Instances’ from a web browser. Here’s the link for the lemmy.world that your account is on-
That's never going to happen. The admins of Lemmy.ml are the actual developers who make the Lemmy software, so there is huge resistance to doing things that will offend them.
There was a software project aiming at making a non-Lemmy Reddit replacement. The main dev got sick and basically the project (Kbin) died, though spawned a fork called Mbin, which afaik has barely been improved since.
Though you may want to check out PieFed, even entirely aside from all of this. The set of features that it has been developing and the speed that they are added is nothing short of astonishing! Btw I am writing to you on Lemmy from PieFed right now.:-)
Since when does lemmy.ml ban political content? Is it on a specific community?
They only ban content that criticizes authoritarianism.
Yep, it’s very much “rules for thee but not for me” at .ml
Lol
Also looking at the mod log it looks like OP is lying to generate outrage and anti-tankie bait. I’m shocked I tell you!
I’m on .ml and I’ve seen this video several times now.
Can you cite where you posted this and what the reason for removal was?
I don’t remember. I didn’t post it. I saved it, and then it was gone.
Ah so just lying to create drama?
Does it even fucking matter what’s banned in what echo chamber??
My guess is someone is afraid thinking about this content might threaten their politics.
Knowing what I know about the politics of the .ml admins, this doesn’t make any sense unless it was removed by a community moderator.
The Fourth Reich is being established under our eyes. What’s the point of social media if a bunch of idiot mods can stop the world from seeing this very essential information?
I would like to have a better definition of what constitutes “political”, what is “humanitarian” then?
Should this be clearly defined per instance?
Like we don’t even have Reddit anymore. All we have is this sputtering slow barely anyone here fresh fragile digital space where we can share some minor resistance, can we at least not have any self sabotage here?
Whats the complaint? Which community did you post this to? If it was posted to a community on lemmy.ml then its fair for them to remove the post, its their instance and they dont care about these posts. If this was reddit you’d have no where else to go. At least with Lemmy you can post to a community on a sane instance.
Lemmy ML dont like the post because they are in favor of the government snatching people off the street without due process.
It looks like lemmy.ml didn’t remove it, but their staff are certainly anti-ICE, plenty of posts there for weeks full of outcry.
Well argued.
I didn’t post it, I just saved it somewhere on .ml and it is gone, and found it back on !progressivepolitics@lemmy.world
My question stands though, I sense that “political” is used fairly broadstrokely It almost means “complicated, longer than 5 second attention span” stuff.
With political meaning “relating to the government or public affairs of a country”, e.g. a broad definition too. However, a free person being essentially abducted on the street by plain clothes “law enforcement” could perhaps be seen as a humanitarian, civil liberty, freedom of speech, and some many others before it being just “political”.
Is there a guideline on Lemmy why we let the tankies be part of this or is a bit of an analogy to the r/TheDonald situation on Reddit? As in: I hope that we don’t slide the same way.
I can’t see evidence that it’s banned. I’m on .ml and can see it just fine. It would be in the modlog if it were banned.
Politics: the activities of the government, members of law-making organizations, or people who try to influence the way a country is governed
All the comments against the decision i have seen on this post argue why the rule should be bypassed, not why this respects the rule
remon@ani.social 4 weeks ago
Complaining about bans for posts on lemmy.ml is like complaining about birdshit on you car when parking under a tree.
kingofras@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I’m not complaining about bans. I’m trying to have a debate on why tankie-land needs to be part of this?
belluck@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
I don’t think you quite understand how the Fediverse works.
Lemmy has no control over the instances. It only provides the format and connects the instances with each other. That is the „fed“-part. Federation. A central authority controlling how each instance moderates itself would defeat the point.
If you don’t like an instance, block it and move on. Nobody except the person who runs the server can do anything to change how they run it.
remon@ani.social 4 weeks ago
You can block the instance if you don’t like it.
tofu@lemmy.nocturnal.garden 4 weeks ago
Because they made this thing and Fediverse is per se open. If you question whether they belong, I wonder why you are posting on .ml?
You didn’t post which community you posted that into so it’s a but hard to evaluate how legitimate the removal is.
Gigasser@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Which community on the .ml instance did you post this on?