The internet used to come through the phone, now the phone goes through the internet.

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Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Irelephant@lemm.ee⁩ to ⁨showerthoughts@lemmy.world⁩

Every landline provider seems to be pivoting to VoIP now.

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renegadespork@lemmy.jelliefrontier.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
You used to ignore the phone to browse the internet on a computer.

Now you ignore the computer to browse the internet on your phone.

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- kratoz29@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  
  Now you ignore the computer to browse the internet on your phone.
  
  I am so impressed about the people that still mainly browse the Internet using a PC… But I am more impressed that people don’t have a PC in their dwelling…
  
  Maybe it is so millennial from my part, but in the house we still have a dedicated “PC room” with a printer that the whole family uses, of course our family browsing experience was almost exclusively done from said room years ago.
  
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- macaw_dean_settle@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  If you are a peasant. Why would you want to look at the world through a keyhole, when you can look at the world through a large picture window?
  
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  - renegadespork@lemmy.jelliefrontier.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    I also prefer a desktop, but I’m not an elitist and I recognize the majority of people, especially younger people, consume a significant amount (if not a majority) of content on their phones.
    
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Lifecoach5000@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
I’m still waiting for IPoV but I guess no one ever invented it.

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- KoboldCoterie@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  Isn’t that basically just a modem?
  
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  - Thorry84@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    Well my first modem was. It was very slow and you used it by dialing the phone yourself and placing the receiver on the modem. This is called an acoustic coupler.
    
    Later modems changed this by connecting directly to the outlet. This allowed for digital signals to be sent directly over the copper wires. This allows for much more bandwidth compared to just bleeping and blooping using audio. There were also in between variants which still used pure audio signals, but still connected directly to the outlet to improve signal quality.
    
    My computer back then also had a tape deck and I would record data using the tape deck. This was also a pure audio based signal. So in theory you could use a regular old tape deck with regular old tapes. However I had a specialized tape deck, specifically made for the computer and special “data” tapes. Not sure if they actually worked better, but I had them so I used them.
    
    Yes both my back and knees hurt.
    
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  - ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    Modem sounds are not a voice. I wonder how efficient digital communication over sounds that can be made with the human vocal system could get, and what it would sound like.
    
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- renegadespork@lemmy.jelliefrontier.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  Just gotta shout dialup noises.
  
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  - egrets@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    In a sense, that’s what phreaking was, if a toy whistle from a breakfast cereal box counts.
    
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- not_woody_shaw@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  Flight of the Conchords already did it. Zero zero zero zero zero zero one. Zero zero zero zero zero zero one.
  
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normalexit@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
I want to use VoIP to dial into a BBS to play some legend of the red dragon.

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- LodeMike@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  VOIP doesn’t have enough bandwidth for dial up
  
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  - nonentity@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    It’s not a lack of bandwidth that typically breaks dialup over VoIP, it’s the jitter.
    
    The only potentially legitimate use for modems over (Vo)IP are faxes, and the proper way to do that is with T.38.
    
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  - InverseParallax@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    It actually does, but only very slow, like 2400 baud or so.
    
    Worst case you can do 150baud which is like 2 frequency keying or something.
    
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TeoTwawki@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
modem noises

I used to call support to see if the internet service was down when I couldn’t connect, now I browse to a status page to see if the phone service is down, and I work in tech support. sad old man noises

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WaxiestSteam69@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
I work for a mid size telco. VoIP has been the predominate method for voice communications going on 10+ years it was just behind the scenes.

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IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
Lol I’m realizing how young I am and I feel like I’m too young to be here. I never had the internet through a phone line, its all coax cables.

(I’m like 20-25)

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- possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  You are so old!
  
  I’m 5
  
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- MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  You make good comments, I’ve seen you around. Take it from a 41 year old if you want, you deserve to be here. You’re more thoughtful than the average person your age and that will only improve once your brain gets finished cooking 😉
  
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- explodicle@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  Think of it like a quick glance back in time. This is what the whole internet used to be like, and it won’t last here either.
  
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nonentity@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
The switchover for cellular was 3G (HSPA) > 4G (LTE).

Data transmission over 3G is encapsulated over the audio channels, and pure LTE is VoIP over data channels. Most networks relied on both during the transition, and it’s the reason many ‘4G’ capable handsets were deprecated when 3G networks were shut down, as they never fully implemented VoIP for audio calls.

Incidentally, DOCSIS (v1.0 - 3.0) downstream channels are encapsulated within MPEG2 frames.

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Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
I’ve only seen VOIP provided by cell providers if both parties are on wifi when making the call. I’d like that same kind of call clarity over the regular network. I can barely understand people over the shitty normal phone network.

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PeteZa@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
Yes, and the underlying technology for internet voice traffic is called SIP. It’s kind of a pain in the ass.

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