Texas Needs Equivalent of 30 Reactors to Meet Data Center Power Demand

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• SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  So why is it the duty of our country to gather all electricity possible for the richest people to waste on burning out GPUs so they can lose money on free chatbots?

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  • pdxfed@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    For the same reason housing should be a speculative investment, and healthcare services available only to the highest bidder.

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• Amoxtli@thelemmy.club ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Data centers need to bring their own power.

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  • paraphrand@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    In a well regulated way that includes oversight, yes.

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  • Botzo@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    To a significant extent, they do, contracting for construction of generation and transmission (very often renewable), at least at the largest scale.

    But, it’s (mostly) all on the grid.

    With demand like that, it’s not like there isn’t significant negotiation with the local power company, especially because they’re frequently built a significant distance from existing large power infrastructure.

    Heck, all the big 3 cloud providers signed deals for nuclear generation in the last few months. spectrum.ieee.org/nuclear-powered-data-center

    Here’s just one more article about these sorts of investments: canarymedia.com/…/google-has-a-20b-plan-to-build-…

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• nothingcorporate@lemmy.today ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  The one state that refuses to connect to the interstate power grid and has Uber-like surge pricing on electricity? Yeah, I’m sure this won’t result in regular people footing the bill for more billionaire profits.

  Texas is a joke, but not a good one.

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  • Amoxtli@thelemmy.club ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Texas pays 11 dollars per kilowatt hour. Far lower than left wing states and has a manufacturering base.

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    • nothingcorporate@lemmy.today ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Every Texan I know has a generator to deal with the unreliability of the grid, and there’s never been an article about someone in Iowa getting a surprise $100k electric bill…and the average wage in Texas is substantially lower than in “left wing” states like California or Washington…so not sure you’re making an apples-to-apples comparison, but time will be the judge, we can all check-in in a year and see how this plays out. Does Lemmy have a remind me! bot?

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• Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  How many do they need in the winter, tho?

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• Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  One of the windiest, sunniest, emptiest places on earth and they want to waste water building reactors instead of renewables.

  Hell, the geology means you can store energy in the ground using pressurized air.

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  • wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    What? I’ve grown up around people in the nuclear industry, and nothing I’ve ever learned about the function “wastes” water.

    Some rambling on how I understand water to be used by reactors

    You’ve got some amount of water in the “dirty loop” exposed to the fissile material, and in the spent fuel storage tanks. Contaminated water is stuck for that use, but that isn’t “spending” the water. The water stays contained in those systems. They don’t magically delete water volume and need to be refilled. Outside of that you have your clean loop, which is bog standard “use heat to make steam, steam move turbine, moving turbine make electiricity, steam cools back to water”. Again, there’s no part of that which somehow makes the water not exist, or not be usable for other purposes.

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    Not saying you’re wrong. Renewables are absolutely preferable, and Texas is prime real estate to maximize their effectiveness. I’m just hung up on the “waste water building reactors” part.

    Guessing it was some sort of research about the building process maybe, that I’ve just missed?

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    • Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Building them doesn’t waste water, running them does. In a place with a lot of water they make sense but any industrial water usage in a place with limited water supplies - when there are lower usage alternatives - seems wasteful

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• Spacehooks@reddthat.com ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Hmm harness the holy light of the sun?

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  • not_that_guy05@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    But what about all that holy black ooze?

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    • Spacehooks@reddthat.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      But what about all that unholy black ooze?

      Demon blood made of 666 particles

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• SkybreakerEngineer@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  So, exactly one uranium patch with a mk 3 miner stuffed full of slugs? Not including waste reprocessing or alternative recipes?

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  • Botzo@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Seems satisfactory to me.

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• MyOpinion@lemm.ee ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Sounds like Texas will be a nuclear waste dump soon.

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  • ProfessorProteus@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Please! It would be such a nice improvement!

    I want to get out of here :(

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