Tesla Installing Countermeasures as People Are Hacking the Cables Off Superchargers

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• nomoredrama@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  He was already selling flame-throwers. That would be hilarious.

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  • CrimeDad@lemmy.crimedad.work ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    D:

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• DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Anything with a Tesla logo on it is fair game.

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• victorz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Just get rid of the charging stations. It’s ridiculous that EV owners should expect to charge their cars anywhere but at home or at work.

  Freaking BASED.

  But for long-distance trips, that doesn’t really hold up until we get battery capacities vastly superior to those of today. For countries with workers that have vacations, we like to go places other than home or work, sometimes. 😅

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  • CrimeDad@lemmy.crimedad.work ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Aren’t EV batteries already big enough? As in, you probably shouldn’t drive more than 8 hours or so in a day without taking a long break and getting a good night’s sleep. There many models on the market with that capability, right? Also, if that’s the type of driving you’re doing frequently, an ICE vehicle or ideally an FCEV would be a better choice, just in terms of avoiding battery wear and tear and reducing the amount dead weight you’re schlepping around. If you’re only going on long drives occasionally, just rent a suitable vehicle or consider another from of transit like a train or a bus and then rent a little EV near your destination.

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    • victorz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      If you’re going to visit family up in the backwoods, the options you listed aren’t really viable. At least not for us.

      And I don’t think you can drive 8 hours before recharging. Say you have a battery of 120 kWh, which is absolutely massive. And let’s say you’re driving at higher speeds like 100+ km/h, maybe you’ll be doing around 20 kWh/100 km consumption rate (that might even be generous depending on the car, especially in the winter). Finishing the battery from 100% to 0% would be (units in italics) 120 kWh ÷ 20 kWh/100 km × 100 km ÷ 100 km/h average speed = 6 hours of driving. And then your car needs to be towed at 0 percent charge left. 🙃

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• Skunk@jlai.lu ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Just get rid of the fuel stations. It’s ridiculous that vehicles owners should expect to refuel their cars anywhere but at home or at work

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  • AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    If people want to go somewhere, they can just walk. They have two perfectly good legs and nobody is stopping them.

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  • b161@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Just get rid of the cars. Build cities built for human communities, not for cars and mega corporations. Electric vehicles are a band-aid solution that’s not going to save us, and doesn’t solve the fundamental problem.

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  • CrimeDad@lemmy.crimedad.work ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’m inclined to agree that all motorized personal vehicles and their attendant infrastructure should be eliminated. However, you’re making a false equivalency. I live in New Jersey, so it takes maybe five minutes for me to completely refuel my car with gasoline. My understanding is that it takes six times as long to charge a big EV to ~80%. Therefore, a single fueling station can serve many more people with a much smaller footprint. Furthermore, fuel gets consumed, whereas batteries are mostly dead weight that occasionally do the thermal runaway thing.

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    • rusticus@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I think it’s funny that you think you’re dumbass trolling is affecting anyone. lol dumbass.

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    • shaggyb@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      all motorized personal vehicles and their attendant infrastructure should be eliminated

      I live in New Jersey, so

      Nuff said.

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    • Skunk@jlai.lu ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I really like the “thermal runaway thing” expression, and yeah it is a false equivalency but it’s a funny one.

      EV charging and the tech around it can be slow today, but it doesn’t mean we should abandon and go back to what we know is working (as some people want to). This is a recipe for zero innovation and not the way to become a Star Trek like civilization.

      In my city there are electric buses that charge in a few seconds at some stops along the route. No overhead wires, no big diesel engines and no noise.

      We just need to work and improve those new vehicles, find better than the actual EV and combustion engines as well.

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• technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  EVs are for saving the car/oil cartels, not for saving the planet.

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  • CrimeDad@lemmy.crimedad.work ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    That is an interesting position. How do you figure?

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• TheFogan@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Just get rid of the charging stations. It’s ridiculous that EV owners should expect to charge their cars anywhere but at home or at work

  why the hell is that ridiculous? People do go places other than home and work. People take road trips and vacations. Electric cars are a good thing, just because one particular brand is owned by a narcisist ruining the country.

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  • EngineerGaming@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Also, not everyone has a parking spot with electricity. How are you supposed to charge if you’re parking on a random place on the street, like most people do? I’d joke about “lower a chain of extension cords from your 20th floor”, but that would be assuming you can park next to your home at all. My building’s parking, for example, had all its spots sold out by now, while the very few ones for sale in the neighborhood cost a fortune. Apparently, they were affordable if you bought the apartment new, but on a secondary market - no.

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  • CrimeDad@lemmy.crimedad.work ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I don’t care about any particular EV brand. Trying to use battery powered EVs for such purposes means that they need to built with heavy, oversized, extra hazardous batteries. The responsible, proper use case for BEVs is short trips with plenty of time for charging at home or work.

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    • rusticus@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      And women should stay home and cook. Amirite?

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    • tabular@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Batteries and liquid fuel are both hazardous in terms of catching fire, do you mean something else?

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    • TheFogan@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      So your suggestion is basically families should own an EV just for getting around home… and a gas guzzler for long distance travel? IMO the ideal should be a slow phase out of the gas cars.

      Or you know… instead of needing super heavy batteries… they could have smaller batteries… if charging stations become common enough that people can relatively easily find places to stop and charge on long trips.

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• tal@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Just get rid of the charging stations. It’s ridiculous that EV owners should expect to charge their cars anywhere but at home or at work.

  Why would it be ridiculous for EV owners to charge cars away from home or work? l’d say that it’s pretty necessary for long-distance trips.

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  • CrimeDad@lemmy.crimedad.work ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    l’d say that it’s pretty necessary for long-distance trips.

    Battery powered EVs should not be used for long-distance trips.

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    • tal@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I mean…I agree with you that EVs are relatively-poorly-suited compared to ICEs for long distance trips, and if I had both a gasoline-powered and electricity-powered vehicle, I’d use the gasoline-powered one for a long-distance trip… but not everyone is going to own both. It’s hardly reasonable to say “well, people who own EVs just can’t travel long distances”.

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• singletona@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I’m going to disagree with you on the sentement. We need a better infrastructure for EVs, and non-tesla vehicles can use those charging stations (either via adaptor, or a few use that same plug type.)

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  • Bach37strad@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Wait, do they not all use the same plug? Forgive my ignorance on EVs, my car is 60 years old.

    With ya on infascructure. Would like to see better build quality than tesla stuff though, and hardware you own not locked behind pay walls. Add standardization to the list I guess.

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    • singletona@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJOfyMCEzjQ

      This guy has done several videos on EVs and their plugs but this one is what I feel is most relevant.

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• Amoxtli@thelemmy.club ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  They must have a lot of copper. Thieves are going target them. What can you do in a land of criminals?

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  • CrimeDad@lemmy.crimedad.work ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I just think installing these BEV charging stations everywhere is a bad idea in the first place.

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  • Telorand@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Fix the system so people don’t have to make money by stealing copper.

    And yet, here we are with billionaires in charge—robber barons v2.0.

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  • 0x0@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Call the coppers on them!
    Oh…

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  • singletona@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Considering the voltages and amps going through it is safe to assume those are fairly thick solid copper wires yes.

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