cross-posted from: lemm.ee/post/55122353
I REALLY want to see normies “manually correct” their machines after bragging with Windows supremacy for so long
Microsoft gives up on users experiencing problems updating their Windows 11 machines. Now recommends a "manual correction"
Submitted 2 months ago by zyratoxx@lemm.ee to technology@lemmy.world
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zyratoxx@lemm.ee 2 months ago
spongebue@lemmy.world 2 months ago
normies
bragging with Windows supremacy
I don’t think that’s as common as you think it is. Most Windows users see Windows as part of the computer, a tool to get the job done. As a DIY’er (basically a tool normie) I don’t brag about the supremacy of my Kobalt tools, I just drill the damn hole
zyratoxx@lemm.ee 2 months ago
As far as I know a lot of Windows users are unhappy with Windows itself but can’t/won’t make the switch for various reasons. I don’t mean them, they are usually very nice.
I mean those people who judge you for not using Windows because “Linux is crap because of drivers and updates” (as if those were uncomplicated/unproblematic on Windows) and then blame every tiny inconvenience on Linux. One dude I used to play games with topped it when they blamed my Linux distro for him experiencing lags claiming Linux was “messing with the game server” (before that they used to say “switch back to Windows” every time I encountered lags or similar).
JWBananas@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Normies don’t tend to perform OS installs from slipstreamed update media.
aesthelete@lemmy.world 2 months ago
That manual correction: installing Linux.
crusa187@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
- Manually insert USB drive with bootable Linux ISO of choice
- …
- Profit!
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
2 is usually install, using a live version of Linux kinda sucks.
the_doktor@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
What a hot mess Windows has become. It’s over, Microsoft. Give it up. Your precious hacks on top of hacks on top of half-ass fixes on top of even more hacks of half-ass fixes has finally become unfixable.
It’s time to move on.
Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
Are you suggesting the build a new OS from the ground up? It’d certainly be interesting
Exec@pawb.social 2 months ago
“Consent required for free use” I doubt this is legal in the EU.
zyratoxx@lemm.ee 2 months ago
I just copy pasted the article into the post so people can read it without having to consent
RobotToaster@mander.xyz 2 months ago
Don_alForno@feddit.org 2 months ago
It sadly is, or at least the data protection agencies don’t act against it. They only declared it illegal under the digital services act for big gatekeepers like facebook.
ramenshaman@lemmy.world 2 months ago
That could mean 2 things ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Xanza@lemm.ee 2 months ago
That’s just what I like to see from an OS developer. “We fucked it up, but dunno how to fix it…”
IMO, to keep Windows competitive with Linux they need a complete rewrite from absolute scratch. It’s realistically the only way that’s going to keep Microsoft on top in the long term. And they’ll never do it because of how expensive it’ll be.
rtxn@lemmy.world 2 months ago
the only way that’s going to keep Microsoft on top in the long term.
You underestimate the complacency of the masses.
Xanza@lemm.ee 2 months ago
I rather think you do.
There will come a point where working around Windows quirks takes up more time than it does to simply seek and learn something else. This is organically how most people seek to find alternatives to software and begin to jump ship.
This is why PHP, as a programming language was replaced. Despite its popularity it became increasingly inconvenient to use. As such, they created other languages to replace it. They took the time to create an entirely new development language to sidestep the inconvenience of using PHP…
The same will eventually happen to Windows. Unquestionably.
lemmeBe@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
This. 😄
ryper@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
They rewrote the taskbar and Start menu for Windows 11, and left out stuff like being able to move the taskbar or even have separate taskbar items for each instance of an application. Rewriting the whole OS would be a disaster.
Xanza@lemm.ee 2 months ago
It’s the only possible solution. The issue with Windows version to version is they merge shit into the base without worrying about how it affects the codebase as a whole. That’s why we have 2-3 different ways to access different menus.
JuxtaposedJaguar@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
My guess is that they’ll keep adding to WSL until Windows is just a legally ambiguous closed-source wrapper around Linux. They’ll make the GPL’d part so convoluted that they’re the only organization able to maintain it, which will force people to continue using their proprietary wrapper. Basically Android but for PCs.
Xanza@lemm.ee 2 months ago
It’s entirely possible.
Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 2 months ago
You should never rewrite a large program:
Xanza@lemm.ee 2 months ago
I’ve been developing software for likely longer than you’ve been alive.
That article you posted makes a supposition; that the developer is just misreading existing code to be poor when it’s actually really good–which is absolutely not the case with Windows…
Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
I think they’re more likely to just ditch consumer OS’ entirely. Its not their moneymaker anymore, that’d be cloud service subscriptions (O365 and Azure) and enterprise licensing.
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Microsoftatemyface
JoeDyrt@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
I made the switch too! I bought a MacBook! After 40 years of MS OSes, Outlook-online and Windows 11 made me quit. And so far so good!
yessikg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
Welp, guess I won’t be able to fix my Windows install
phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
And yet again: install Linux. I’ve been a happy lojix desktop user forever 2 decades now. Linux was ready for normal users 10 years ago, it was more than ready 5 years ago, and it is definitely beyond ready today
TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I’m frequently told that Linux is hard and you need to be a tech guru to use it, yet every week I see 1-2 articles of issues in windows you need to do some bullshit to fix.
SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 2 months ago
Windows is easy, bro, you just need to run this shady PowerShell script to get rid of ads, run this random EXE from github.ru to disable telemetry, install ClassicShell to make the UI actually usable, install a million utilities for basic features (each from a separate site, of course ; the centralized Windows Store is full of malwarei), then pray
sfc /scannowfixes your system after each update.BTW, don’t bother searching for a solution to your problems other than “retry, reboot, reinstall” ; even certified MS professionals don’t know how anything works.
Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I’ve been on Win10 for years, never had a single problem with any update whatsoever.
Still not subjecting myself to W11 though. As soon as Win10 support ends, I’ll make the switch.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
I recommend setting up whatever your alternative is a little before committing to ease the transition a bit.
Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 months ago
Windows 10 had an update that notoriously broke a lot of games a while back and the only solution was to manually roll it back.
HeyJoe@lemmy.world 2 months ago
It’s been the same on win 11. The only experience i have had was at work. I work closely with the updating team, and there have been a few times where things would break like printers, and we would revert the updates to stop it from going to everyone and uninstall. Sometimes, that meant a help desk guy had to go to the pc or remote in to do it manually. I’ve been there 19 years now, and it’s happened twice?
WindyRebel@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Same boat here.
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
I’ve run
TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 2 months ago
You are wrong. Ran is past tense of run.
dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/…/run-into
If you’re going to try to correct people, please make sure you’re actually right first.
It’s ran. Because I’m talking about past events.
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
At least that shit is somewhat documented.
If you are so sure about the way Linux is fully usable and understandable: Please tell me the proper way to set a static IP via terminal on Raspberry Pi OS and/or Debian bookworm.
Because last I checked (about 4 weeks ago) it was basically impossible.
femtech@midwest.social 2 months ago
cyberciti.biz/…/add-configure-set-up-static-ip-ad…
MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
Uhm, Windows? No.
thesystemisdown@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Something like this? devtutorial.io/how-to-configure-static-ip-address…