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Elon Musk uses cybertruck explosion to show Tesla can remotely unlock and monitor vehicles

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Submitted ⁨⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨itsathursday@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨aboringdystopia@lemmy.world⁩

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  • ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    From TFA:

    Elon Musk remotely unlocked the Cybertruck for law enforcement and provided video from charging stations that the truck had visited to track the vehicle’s location

    Wow… Telsa remote controls your car and watches everything you do with your car.

    …with YOUR car.

    Dystopia much?

    Yet another reason not to buy a Tesla. Also in fairness, all cars are privacy nightmares today. It’s just that most manufacturers, being less stupid and less in-your-face than Musk, try to stay low-key about the privacy invasion and don’t go around showing off their dystopian oversight capabilities over your property.

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    • halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      This isn’t surprising at all to anyone paying attention to what the Tesla app lets you do with your vehicle, or if they have interacted with Tesla support. All of that info is available in the app, including viewing not only live camera feeds from sentry mode, but also saved recordings from the USB drive installed in the vehicle now. Clearly if you can do that from the app, the company can do that and more.

      Similar stuff is almost surely possible with any of the other manufacturers that have mobile apps with similar functionality as well.

      Hell, shit like OnStar had similar functionality to remotely unlock vehicles before Tesla even existed.

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      • ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yeah but the crucial bit of difference was, if you thought OnStar was too invasive, you could turn it off or buy a car without it.

        Good luck buying a car that isn’t online and snitching on you all the time, or disabling the telemetry today.

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      • IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        OnStar freaked me out after an accident in a rental car a few years ago. We had no idea the rental car had it. We got rear ended by a drunk driver and spun 360 degrees off the road. Within a second or two of coming to a stop a voice was asking if we were ok.

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    • Goun@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      YOUR car? I don’t think you’re understanding this correctly…

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      • ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        It sure looks like it was my money that flew from my bank account to the dealer’s.

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    • NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      My impression is the charging stations have cameras to deter and catch thieves. Tesla isn’t looking at your camera feeds unless you’ve enabled the right data sharing setting, in which case I imagine they could.

      And yes if you go to a charging station, of course they know you were there and can track your path.

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      • ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I’ll just leave this here…

        reuters.com/…/tesla-workers-shared-sensitive-imag…

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    • psud@aussie.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      With Tesla you can opt out. Other brands that do the same generally have no way to opt out

      It’s part of the current trend to not let you be the final decision maker on IT equipment you own. Your phone does all it can to prevent you getting root access. Your home computer/laptop has a second processor in it running code you can’t change to enforce DRM

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  • seathru@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    GM has been remotely unlocking cars and harvesting their geolocation data (via onstar) since the mid 2000’s. Elon is late to the party.

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  • Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    So a guy is found shot in the head of a car that advertises self driving features and nobody’s got their tin foil on?

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    • HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Wait the guy was dead from gunshot not the explosion? I’m OOTL

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      • SL3wvmnas@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        this CBS article provides a pretty good overview about the known facts to date. While it looks like a camping trip gone wrong, the whole timing is just weird.

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    • Boomkop3@reddthat.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      He’s already in a tin can :p

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  • Lumidaub@feddit.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    How exactly is this information helpful to law enforcement in this case?

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    • itsathursday@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I think the main motivation here was to find the suspect and disprove that the truck exploded due to fault or defect. Elon was saving his brands image here and 0 to do with national security or public interest.

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      • anachronist@midwest.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        “Everyone may be surprised to learn that our car didn’t just explode on its own. We can prove it using the spy camera recordings we have of the owner!”

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      • psud@aussie.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I’m impressed it was still online and able to be remote unlocked after that explosion and fire

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  • orcrist@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    When does Tesla assume liability? They’ll be sued soon enough. The more data they analyze, the more they’re responsible for, for example, stopping bad drivers, or catching terrorists installing bombs. But they won’t want to feel that heat, now will they.

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    • deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Car manufacturer neutrality legislation incoming.

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      • NocturnalEngineer@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        With more driver assistance features taking vehicle autonomy, I’m honestly surprised they haven’t tried to pushed for this yet.

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  • ClanOfTheOcho@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    So, was entering the exploded vehicle an extreme difficulty without the remote unlock, then? Because I don’t think it was, exploded or not.

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    • Lodespawn@aussie.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Prius’ used to have a problem in that the main power feed ran through the A pillar so emergency services couldn’t cut you out of it without killing themselves. Bit of a different situation though.

      I would have thought an average locksmith could have opened it, and given its already exploded there probably wasn’t a need to get it open quick via Tesla tech support. I’m surprised the radios providing telemetry and control even worked in a car that had exploded, particularly a car that appears to be riddled with issues like a cyber truck.

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      • FeloniousPunk@lemmy.today ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I’m guessing they unlocked his Tesla account, not the actual vehicle. Because there’s no way that thing was functional in any way.

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    • halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Depends on what was damaged. Being able to unlock and open things like the frunk, tonneau cover, glovebox, etc. with a remote command is certainly easier than breaking them open, if they were still closed.

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    • psud@aussie.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      They can be opened with a battery angle grinder

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  • recreationalcatheter@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Did Luigi get the right CEO?

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  • DogPeePoo@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Cybertruck sales 📉🔥

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  • Kolanaki@yiffit.net ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I don’t even know why people are surprised… Would they flip out if they heard about OnStar, which was super common to see in most cars made in the mid to late 2000’s?

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    • ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Would they flip out if they heard about OnStar, which was super common to see in most cars made in the mid to late 2000’s/2010’s?

      You could opt out of OnStar. It was optional.

      Can you opt out of the current car surveillance collective? I don’t think so.

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      • Kolanaki@yiffit.net ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Just because you could choose not to subscribe to the service doesn’t mean the car still can’t be monitored or controlled by them.

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      • psud@aussie.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        You can opt out of Tesla monitoring too

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  • index@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Do your math: they know about it but lie publicly. Government knows it too and lie about it.

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