GM has been remotely unlocking cars and harvesting their geolocation data (via onstar) since the mid 2000’s. Elon is late to the party.
Elon Musk uses cybertruck explosion to show Tesla can remotely unlock and monitor vehicles
Submitted 3 months ago by itsathursday@lemmy.world to aboringdystopia@lemmy.world
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seathru@lemmy.sdf.org 3 months ago
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 3 months ago
So a guy is found shot in the head of a car that advertises self driving features and nobody’s got their tin foil on?
HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 months ago
Wait the guy was dead from gunshot not the explosion? I’m OOTL
SL3wvmnas@discuss.tchncs.de 3 months ago
this CBS article provides a pretty good overview about the known facts to date. While it looks like a camping trip gone wrong, the whole timing is just weird.
Boomkop3@reddthat.com 3 months ago
He’s already in a tin can :p
Lumidaub@feddit.org 3 months ago
How exactly is this information helpful to law enforcement in this case?
itsathursday@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I think the main motivation here was to find the suspect and disprove that the truck exploded due to fault or defect. Elon was saving his brands image here and 0 to do with national security or public interest.
anachronist@midwest.social 3 months ago
“Everyone may be surprised to learn that our car didn’t just explode on its own. We can prove it using the spy camera recordings we have of the owner!”
psud@aussie.zone 3 months ago
I’m impressed it was still online and able to be remote unlocked after that explosion and fire
orcrist@lemm.ee 3 months ago
When does Tesla assume liability? They’ll be sued soon enough. The more data they analyze, the more they’re responsible for, for example, stopping bad drivers, or catching terrorists installing bombs. But they won’t want to feel that heat, now will they.
deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 3 months ago
Car manufacturer neutrality legislation incoming.
NocturnalEngineer@lemmy.world 3 months ago
With more driver assistance features taking vehicle autonomy, I’m honestly surprised they haven’t tried to pushed for this yet.
ClanOfTheOcho@lemmy.world 3 months ago
So, was entering the exploded vehicle an extreme difficulty without the remote unlock, then? Because I don’t think it was, exploded or not.
Lodespawn@aussie.zone 3 months ago
Prius’ used to have a problem in that the main power feed ran through the A pillar so emergency services couldn’t cut you out of it without killing themselves. Bit of a different situation though.
I would have thought an average locksmith could have opened it, and given its already exploded there probably wasn’t a need to get it open quick via Tesla tech support. I’m surprised the radios providing telemetry and control even worked in a car that had exploded, particularly a car that appears to be riddled with issues like a cyber truck.
FeloniousPunk@lemmy.today 3 months ago
I’m guessing they unlocked his Tesla account, not the actual vehicle. Because there’s no way that thing was functional in any way.
halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Depends on what was damaged. Being able to unlock and open things like the frunk, tonneau cover, glovebox, etc. with a remote command is certainly easier than breaking them open, if they were still closed.
psud@aussie.zone 3 months ago
They can be opened with a battery angle grinder
recreationalcatheter@lemm.ee 3 months ago
Did Luigi get the right CEO?
DogPeePoo@lemm.ee 3 months ago
Cybertruck sales 📉🔥
Kolanaki@yiffit.net 3 months ago
I don’t even know why people are surprised… Would they flip out if they heard about OnStar, which was super common to see in most cars made in the mid to late 2000’s?
ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 3 months ago
Would they flip out if they heard about OnStar, which was super common to see in most cars made in the mid to late 2000’s/2010’s?
You could opt out of OnStar. It was optional.
Can you opt out of the current car surveillance collective? I don’t think so.
Kolanaki@yiffit.net 3 months ago
Just because you could choose not to subscribe to the service doesn’t mean the car still can’t be monitored or controlled by them.
psud@aussie.zone 3 months ago
You can opt out of Tesla monitoring too
index@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
Do your math: they know about it but lie publicly. Government knows it too and lie about it.
ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 3 months ago
From TFA:
Wow… Telsa remote controls your car and watches everything you do with your car.
…with YOUR car.
Dystopia much?
Yet another reason not to buy a Tesla. Also in fairness, all cars are privacy nightmares today. It’s just that most manufacturers, being less stupid and less in-your-face than Musk, try to stay low-key about the privacy invasion and don’t go around showing off their dystopian oversight capabilities over your property.
halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 3 months ago
This isn’t surprising at all to anyone paying attention to what the Tesla app lets you do with your vehicle, or if they have interacted with Tesla support. All of that info is available in the app, including viewing not only live camera feeds from sentry mode, but also saved recordings from the USB drive installed in the vehicle now. Clearly if you can do that from the app, the company can do that and more.
Similar stuff is almost surely possible with any of the other manufacturers that have mobile apps with similar functionality as well.
Hell, shit like OnStar had similar functionality to remotely unlock vehicles before Tesla even existed.
ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 3 months ago
Yeah but the crucial bit of difference was, if you thought OnStar was too invasive, you could turn it off or buy a car without it.
Good luck buying a car that isn’t online and snitching on you all the time, or disabling the telemetry today.
IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 3 months ago
OnStar freaked me out after an accident in a rental car a few years ago. We had no idea the rental car had it. We got rear ended by a drunk driver and spun 360 degrees off the road. Within a second or two of coming to a stop a voice was asking if we were ok.
Goun@lemmy.ml 3 months ago
YOUR car? I don’t think you’re understanding this correctly…
ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 3 months ago
It sure looks like it was my money that flew from my bank account to the dealer’s.
NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 3 months ago
My impression is the charging stations have cameras to deter and catch thieves. Tesla isn’t looking at your camera feeds unless you’ve enabled the right data sharing setting, in which case I imagine they could.
And yes if you go to a charging station, of course they know you were there and can track your path.
ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 3 months ago
I’ll just leave this here…
reuters.com/…/tesla-workers-shared-sensitive-imag…
psud@aussie.zone 3 months ago
With Tesla you can opt out. Other brands that do the same generally have no way to opt out
It’s part of the current trend to not let you be the final decision maker on IT equipment you own. Your phone does all it can to prevent you getting root access. Your home computer/laptop has a second processor in it running code you can’t change to enforce DRM