The fediverse needs to outlast BlueSky, so that when its VC backers call time and demand a profitable exit (i.e. enshittification), there’ll still be a fediverse.
Mastodon sees a boost from the 'X exodus,' too, founder says
Submitted 5 months ago by lemmee_in@lemm.ee to fediverse@lemmy.world
https://techcrunch.com/2024/11/18/mastodon-sees-a-boost-from-the-x-exodus-too-founder-says/
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AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 5 months ago
blind3rdeye@lemm.ee 5 months ago
It will outlast bs. Mastodon has been around for many years now. It already outlasted Google+, which was bigger and had more funding. And since it has a broad base of support it’s unlikely that it will all just fall apart. Unlike the commercial social networks, no single person can pull the plug the fediverse. (Lemmy is younger, but it also seems very strong right now. I just hope lemmy still gets some exposure on the outside now that the major drama at reddit has died down.)
muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 5 months ago
The fediverse will have the same growths as most foss. It will start slow and continue to grow slowly forever. It will always be a bit behind the cutting edge but it will never get worse only get better. Its like evolution it gets forked the best fork wins the reat die repeat.
Every enshitification cycle we will gain a few people and once we have them we have they stay a lot longer than most other platforms. We will not win through mass adoption but through a long slow a painfull proccess of gradual accumulation.
And at some point it will become dominant eg blender, a bunch of standards, and linux in the server space. The tech companies live on the edge forever trying to outrun the snail that will kill them instantly when it touches them. Foss is coming it cannot be stopped it will find them and it will kill them
Masta_Chief@lemmy.world 5 months ago
*if we can fund it
I’m probably going to start donating $5 a month to the Lemmy devs (or whomever is the best to donate to) Vote with your wallet people!
muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 5 months ago
I would reccommend donating to ur instances over the devs. The instances have ongoing costs that if not paid will shut down the fediverse far quicker than a slowed development cycle
fosho@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
is no one calling it the X-odus and why?
FreeBooteR69@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
I love the Fediverse and see it as the only reasonable choice. Everywhere else you must eat shit and like it.
Blaster_M@lemmy.world 5 months ago
The Xodus
capital@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Seriously. What the fuck TechCrunch?
Today@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I thought the name x was stupid, but now I love the idea of eXodus. If I were starting a site, that’s what I would call it.
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 5 months ago
Right?
It’s so obvious. Journalism today, sheesh.
savant@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I think I saw two or three “exodus from Twitter”, every time most of the users go back after two weeks or so.
shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
Most definitely go back, but some stay, and those who do stay, cause a growth over time. The activity stays somewhat elevated and never goes back to exactly where it was. It’s always just a little bit higher.
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Kind of like Elvis’s colon. He expelled MOST of the fecies everyday, but some stayed permanently, until he died on the toilet with 25lbs of fecies inside him that never came out.
I guess in this example, I’m saying that people are shit
JineteDeAbuelas47@lemmy.world 5 months ago
As a Spaniard this one feels different. Mastodon never really took off, but Bluesky is going up and up with lots of media personalities, politicians, influencer and most importantly, shitposting accounts
Gullible@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
I’m a bit late on this one, why’s there been another exodus?
Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 5 months ago
From Wikipedia:
In November 2024, following Donald Trump’s victory in the 2024 United States presidential election and Elon Musk’s nomination as a co-executive of the proposed Department of Government Efficiency, Bluesky experienced a surge in new user registrations as people migrated from other social platforms, particularly Twitter. Many came from the United States, United Kingdom (where Bluesky had previously seen growth during the 2024 UK riots following Musk’s commentary), and Canada. The social app added over 4 million registered users in that week, becoming the most popular app in the US App Store and Play Store.
pmarcilus@discuss.tchncs.de 5 months ago
Most of the exodus where coming from iOS ecosystem, mostly Americans ig. Nonetheless, the destruction of Xitter will give fediverse the momentum to grow. Achieving 800k active users is wild (tho i do notice some spams too, which I wish there’ll be easier tool sets to deal with them). Now, let’s see which approach of social media will win in the long run: the Bluesky or Mastodon.
Rentlar@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
Even if Mastodon and other Fediverse platform gains are 1% of the gains of BlueSky or anything else, it’s still cause for celebration and to welcome new friendly faces with open arms.
When the Reddit API-calypse happened, I don’t think anyone expected Lemmy to have more users than Reddit or anywhere even close to a similar number. But Lemmy.ca went from around 40 active users in April 2023 to hundreds, and then to 2k over 3 months, most people being friendly and ready for something different.
Quantity isn’t everything. There is an innumerable amount things that could be better about Mastodon and sure, mass-adoption could help with niche content. However the way the Fediverse is set up, it is resistant to all the sacrifices other platforms had to make in the long run to be more profitable. Musk-boi could “buy” Mastodon and Zucker-bot could “buy” Pixelfed tomorrow, but that wouldn’t stop anyone from forking those two platforms and leaving the main instances. The distributed nature makes it hard for a monopolist to capture.
JupiterRowland@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
Or going someplace in the Fediverse that’s neither Mastodon nor Lemmy nor Pixelfed.
Kichae@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
People just very badly want to not know about other fediverse platforms for some reason.
SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 5 months ago
That right there hits the nail on the head. There is a certain critical mass, an activity level that makes satisfy most discussion needs for most users. It’s a tiny fraction of the total traffic of a place like Reddit or Twitter.
But if we have that, and keep the quality level up, we can succeed.
Success to me doesn’t mean killing Reddit and Twitter. It means creating a place where smart people can come and find enough content and discussion that they don’t need Reddit and Twitter.