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After 11 years, Xbox One emulators are finally coming to PC - but they're not actually using emulation at all

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Submitted ⁨⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨cm0002@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨games@lemmy.world⁩

https://www.gamesradar.com/platforms/xbox-one/after-11-years-xbox-one-emulators-are-finally-coming-to-pc-but-theyre-not-actually-using-emulation-at-all/

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  • smeg@feddit.uk ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The rest of the article is mildly interesting, but if you just took the bait from the headline:

    On a technical level, Xbox One is essentially a PC using a heavily modified version of Windows, and this software simply translates native Xbox applications into a form that can run on standard Windows PCs

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    • NikkiDimes@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      So…software emulation…

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    • BlAeQ8@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
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  • RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Nobody was missing out on anything.

    The translation layer is awesome for every other game though.

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    • Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Halo 5 had a lot of problems. Bit it’s a damned masterpiece compared to Infinite.

      Halo 5 had great gunplay, Warzone Firefight was a blast, the Guardians were a great stand-in for the Halo rings, Cortana was an intimidating enemy by the end of the game, the lootboxes were actually better than the armor cores and marketplace from Infinite.

      There are A LOT of negatives in there too. But a lot of positives. Infinite is just a shitshow from the beginning.

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      • BestTestInTheWest@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Do people not like infinite? A mate and I are playing coop currently and I’m really enjoying it.

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      • scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Them just retconning Cortana was such a letdown. Honestly while 5 wasn’t great, it did set up infinite to be really really good. Then they went with a really boring alternative.

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      • PraiseTheSoup@lemm.ee ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Halo 5 is still the worst Halo game.

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    • simple@lemm.ee ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yeah there’s a reason there hasn’t been much interested in Xbone emulation, almost everything worth emulating has gotten PC ports over the years or is also on PS3 which does have a good emulator. Maybe if Sunset Overdrive was still a console exclusive I’d bother, but I guess this is cool for some peeps.

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    • curry@programming.dev ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’s still important for video game preservation, no matter how crappy the games themselves might be.

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    • tacosanonymous@lemm.ee ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I was a big LAN player in the heyday of the original, even got through 4.

      That trash game came with the xbone I bought for my wife and I still couldn’t play it.

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      • Microplasticbrain@lemm.ee ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        343 just sucks at making good halo stories, great gameplay (on infinite atleast), but they just don’t know where to take the story. I was disappointed in 4 skipped 5 and infinite was another halfbaked story that just felt empty.

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    • TrustedTyrant@lemm.ee ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Forza horizon 2 is the only game I can think of that I would use this for.

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    • MossyFeathers@pawb.social ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I couldn’t get through Halo 4’s campaign when it was released as part of the MCC, nor was I able to get though Halo Infinite’s (it wasn’t bad, just… meh; nowhere near as good as the Bungie campaigns but not trash either, just not as good). I would still like the option to play Halo 5 on PC just so I have the ability to play the main campaign, plus I’ve heard it’s the best multiplayer Halo? But yeah. Even if I never actually play it, it’s nice to have the option.

      On a tangential note, I think 343’s Halo games would have been considered good if it wasn’t for Bungie’s Halo. I don’t think their campaigns are honestly bad, per se (though again, haven’t tried to play H5), they’re just bad in comparison to the “OG” games.

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      • WhyFlip@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Pew pew pew!

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  • mox@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    XWine1 is, again, a compatibility layer rather than an emulator.

    chuckle

    Author apparently thinks hardware emulation is the only kind of emulation.

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    • ms_lane@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Wine is not an Emulator is not an emulator.

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      • caseyweederman@lemmy.ca ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Gnu’s Not Unix Image Manipulation Program

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    • woelkchen@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      API wrappers are not emulators.

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      • mox@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        If Wine were just an API wrapper, it wouldn’t work.

        But go ahead and believe what you want. I’m not interested in arguing with you.

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  • intensely_human@lemm.ee ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    They are, however, accomplishing the same thing as emulators, just with a different strategy.

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    • yamanii@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      And I feel the hardware requirements end up way lower, when I had a bad PC I could play Burnout Revenge at full speed on the 360 emulator, but the PS2 version ran like a turtle.

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    • tiddy@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      A screwdriver can be a hammer if you’re determined enough

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  • yamanii@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I can’t wait to play the proper Forza Horizon 2, and Crash Team Racing, curse you Activision for not bringing this one to PC!

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    • MazonnaCara89@lemmy.ml ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I don’t know which one of the ctr games you are referring too, but you might be interested about this one www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCwSkmAp7f8, there is an effort from ctr community to port the ps1 game on pc

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  • celsiustimeline@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Am I crazy, or didn’t Phil in 2013 say something like “you can put an xbox game in your PC and it’ll play!” Yeah. Still waiting for that one.

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    • merthyr1831@lemmy.ml ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      he followed through on that, but only because Xbox gave up and ported their slop over to Steam anyway

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  • Tattorack@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Well, of course not, because Wine Is Not an Emulator. Considering it’s called XWine1, would there be a Linux version too?

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    • ATDA@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I think that’s called proton (jokes aside yes I know steam wouldn’t do that for obvious legal implications.)

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  • stardust@lemmy.ca ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Hopefully I’ll get to finally play Gears of War 2.

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    • Blxter@lemmy.zip ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yes been wanting to play the og gears again for years now on PC I want a gears style MCC so bad

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      • ABCDE@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Isn’t it all on game pass?

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      • Blackmist@feddit.uk ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        That’s already out isn’t it? Remastered and everything.

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  • Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Why would they, Xbox uses a version Windows and an x86 core + AMD GPU, bog standard parts, bog standard system, it’s easier to tap into the windows component on an x86 system and just use that to run the games. Making a proper emulator for games that would otherwise run on the PC natively just wouldn’t make sense.

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    • Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I think this will become true for a lot of the new gen systems in the future (starting from xbox1).
      Same for PS4 maybe running easier on OpenBSD/Unix-like systems by having a similar kernel.

      Will certainly be interesting!

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