This is HORRIBLE! I’m a Patriotic Republican and don’t know why it’s Horrible Yet but Biden did it so it’s BAD!!
Apple's mobile chips are now made in the U.S. — TSMC produces the older A16 Bionic at its Arizona fab
Submitted 2 months ago by misk@sopuli.xyz to technology@lemmy.world
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BigMacHole@lemm.ee 2 months ago
Crashumbc@lemmy.world 2 months ago
He did it to support the rich libtards! Not the poor working Republicans can no longer afford guns to stop the immigrants. And he hates Tiaywan !
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0x0f@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
more domestic production is great
helenslunch@feddit.nl 2 months ago
That’s great but, honest question: why?
ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Because the U.S. government gave them $6.6 billion to do it under the CHIPS Act: reuters.com/…/tsmc-wins-66-bln-us-subsidy-arizona…
With TSMC, it’s insurance against China invading Taiwan but Intel (and probably everyone else) got a load of subsidies too. After the chip shortage during the pandemic and Russia invading Ukraine, chip production became a national security issue.
helenslunch@feddit.nl 2 months ago
Mystery solved, I suppose!
Quill7513@slrpnk.net 2 months ago
From a business perspective: more control over the manufacturing process and less risk of getting hit by tariffs
helenslunch@feddit.nl 2 months ago
How does being in the US give you more control over manufacturing?
Tariffs are not new.
Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Less risk of tariffs on China, less risk of supply chain disruptions like with the pandemic, takes advantage of incentives from the US government, and is something that is cool to advertise.
QBertReynolds@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Apple wants to cut down on counterfeiting. The US wants to prevent supply chain issues and reduce reliance on foreign chip production. The wiki article on the CHIPS Act is a pretty good overview: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/CHIPS_and_Science_Act
PenisDuckCuck9001@lemmynsfw.com 2 months ago
Who the fuck is counterfeiting a cpu that only 2 factories in the world can make?
fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
Multiple sources of production.
We learned during concentrating all of your production in one small country wasn’t a good idea. Plus having multiple sources has always been suggested in case anything goes wrong with one company you can still have some production.
helenslunch@feddit.nl 2 months ago
Sure but there are other countries that also have cheaper manufacturing rates.
Hawk@lemmynsfw.com 2 months ago
Yeah that’s been my least favourite experience with Lemmy.
Many replies are hostile and highly opinionated.
I don’t have an answer for your question but it was a good question and it made me curious.
I’m in favour of domestic production but I would always want more information about it.
febra@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Bit by bit, Taiwan will be slowly sold off to China once they no longer hold the last thing that made them worthy of Western protection. Of course, there will be some harsh words of condemnation, but that’s it. That’s my theory. Sad but true.
misk@sopuli.xyz 1 month ago
That’s the reason I’m rooting for everyone, including China, to do well with domestic chipmaking. Makes everyone have little less reason to try this modern day mutually assured destruction.
Prethoryn@lemmy.world 1 month ago
China: “this guys right, we are almost close to be our own chip manufacture and owning Taiwan.”
Professorozone@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Anybody know if this has anything to do with Biden’s Chips and Sciences program?
QBertReynolds@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Yes. So far, the CHIPS Act has resulted in $6.6b in direct funding and an additional $5b in available loans for the AZ facility.
cyberic@discuss.tchncs.de 2 months ago
Where will they keep the child laborers?
Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 2 months ago
That was Foxcon, not TSMC. And all of us have a LOT of shit in our homes made by Foxcon.
antmzo220@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
Do they have bombs in them?
lustyargonian@lemm.ee 1 month ago
N00b question. Do these chips get transferred from USA to India/Vietnam for assembly and then back again to all over the world for shipping?
mholiv@lemmy.world 1 month ago
They may. But logically I can’t see it being a problem. Each CPU is like 10mmx10mmx1mm. You could fit a TON in a 1m^3 box.
Threeme2189@lemm.ee 1 month ago
Ideally 100,000 if my math is correct. Just be careful as there is no packing material except for the box itself.
lustyargonian@lemm.ee 1 month ago
Hmm. Perhaps we’d come to a point where these facilities are on all continents to reduce ecological impact, but I guess Apple isn’t that green.
henfredemars@infosec.pub 2 months ago
It’s very impressive that they got such a modern process up and running in such a relatively short period of time. I understand the Arizona location is relatively new.
misk@sopuli.xyz 2 months ago
Yeah, they’re essentially doing trials where Arizona fab provides small amounts of sillicon that’s being validated against what Taiwan fab does. While it was planned for 2024 I’m guessing everyone thought it would be delayed. It’s quite a big win for US, they’re on track to secure domestic supply of fairly modern chips in case shit hits the fan in Taiwan.
avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
And they managed to do that with those lazy US workers? Wow.
EleventhHour@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Thanks, Biden!
IcyToes@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Maybe, but Intel operates there so the labour pool is probably quite skilled already. Perhaps good supply chains too.