Fediverse is so 2022. It’s all about AI now.
Mozilla is going to shut down their Mastodon instance
Submitted 1 month ago by neme@lemm.ee to fediverse@lemmy.world
https://mozilla.social/@mozilla/113153943609185249
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Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 1 month ago
pooperNickel@lemm.ee 1 month ago
When it’s not about simping for Trump
TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 1 month ago
Wait what? Am I slow or are you saying Mozilla has been “simping for Trump”?? How??
ItsComplicated@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
I did not see a reason given. Anyone know why?
rglullis@communick.news 1 month ago
Political. Steve Teixeira was the one championing the focus on social. Apparently the faction that wanted him out won, and now they are getting rid of his babies, too.
mke@programming.dev 1 month ago
I would suggest not trusting anything Lunduke says, the man went off the deep end and became a harmful conspiracy theorist.
For example, he believes there is a trans advocacy group going around and destroying open source projects from within. That’s right, only the Lunduke Journal has the truth, and the truth is that trans kids are killing open source.
Nyanix@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
Lord of the Flies up in there, hot damn!
vvvvv@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Gutting defeated/ousted manager’s projects is an obligatory and unavoidable ritual in corporate environment. Competent or convenient employees are pulled into other teams, pesky/unconvenient ICs are fired since everything can be pinned on the loser. Projects are often dismantled - even profitable ones to remove any possible foothold for a comeback. Shit, now I want to write a corpo book but styled like high school biology textbook.
Blackmist@feddit.uk 1 month ago
Probably because nobody was using it.
307 users over the last month is barely worth keeping the server running when mastodon.social is getting 249 thousand.
Blaze@feddit.org 1 month ago
Sorry to hear, the comments on the post aren’t happy
ericjmorey@discuss.online 1 month ago
Doesn’t help that they have offered no explanation at all.
cabbage@piefed.social 1 month ago
The comments on the post also aren't from Mozilla.social. It's not like they would have been happy to see Mozilla as a successful actor on the Fediverse either.
Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I think it’s to be expected with their current decisions of chasing the AI trend and buying an advertising company, but mostly from chasing the AI trend. After all as much as the few AI-bros here would like to claim most of Firefox users are not happy about the idea of AI chatbot integration into Firefox, and especially aren’t happy about AI search history integration into Firefox.
Many people think that Mozilla is trying to cut off communication with their customers or move to more corporate social media like threads or Twitter since their AI efforts are not being well received in this community. And will I definitely can say it’s more complicated than that, that’s not a wrong idea either, since their AI efforts are absolutely not well received by this community.
Eldritch@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Well running a server and no longer interacting with a service can be two different things. From an organizational standpoint I could absolutely understand them not wanting or needing the expense of another service to maintain. Even for just their own use. As long as they still have accounts and post to the fediverse. I don’t see a big issue
barsoap@lemm.ee 1 month ago
They’ll probably still have an instance in the sense that mozilla folks with have @mozilla.social addresses. That’s the kind of thing their hosting staff can easily administer on the side, and moderation is already covered by HR.
johnassel@discuss.tchncs.de 1 month ago
I hope that means that they can and will put more power into Firefox development - to concentrate on their main thing.
aciDC14@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Well that’s lame.
sag@lemm.ee 1 month ago
Are they leaving Fediverse?
cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 month ago
i’m legitimately sad about this since i loved having a nice wholesome social media network that actually takes moderation seriously to keep up trolls and harassers :(
Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 1 month ago
It is sad, really thought they were trying to do something good but I guess they were just trying to chase trends, they’re pursuing the AI trend now heavily, and a lot of Firefox users are pissed about it, many think they are shutting down because they don’t get the positive feedback and enthusiasm about AI that they were hoping to on Mastodon, as they do on other platforms like twitter and threads.
mke@programming.dev 1 month ago
The replies are a prime example of the fediverse microblogging sphere’s greatest qualities.
This entire event is unfortunate, but unsurprising.
bannanaente@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Like what qualities?
mke@programming.dev 1 month ago
I’m sorry, banana, that was sarcasm. I saw nothing I’d call a quality.
nroth@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I bet its two users are both very sad
electricprism@lemmy.ml 1 month ago
First I heard they even had a fedi.
5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
I never interacted with mozilla.social, but I wonder if they considered organising mozilla.social through a connected volunteer association, before deciding to shutdown.
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Managing unpaid volunteers is its own kind of headache
Pacrat173@lemmy.ml 1 month ago
Really sad to see it go and really annoyed to see them pushing AI
finickydesert@lemmy.ml 1 month ago
I was actually thinking about to go through the profile directory and follow interesting people on there. I guess I should wait.
narrowide96lochkreis@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Might be actually better to follow them now. In case these profiles move to another instance, you will still follow them after the move. But if you don’t follow them it might be harder to find out if and where they moved to, to find them again.
PEWPSHOOTPIRATE@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Lol…people sayin mozilla goin downhill…they have been putting up a fake premise to the public for 10 years.
blueberry@diagonlemmy.social 1 month ago
Thats sad. I’m sure mozilla could have pushed the Fediverse
Hubi@feddit.org 1 month ago
Why? Doesn’t look like there’s any explanation for this move.
tamlyn@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
The new CEO of Mozilla, Laura Chambers, already said on march she want to reduce investment for mastodon and other products (VR, VPN, Relay). So this is just another part in reducing cost on section that doesn’t produce money. I’m not surprised. Sadly i have only a german source for that and the soure of them, bloomberg has a paywall.
FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org 1 month ago
Good. They should focus on their browser. No one wanted their side projects. It was scope creep and took away resources from their main product offering. Sounds like the right move.
lvxferre@mander.xyz 1 month ago
That’s what I immediately thought - they’re cutting corners to decrease dependency of googlebux, as depending on how things go those bux will go dry.
TheFool@infosec.pub 1 month ago
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# Mozilla baut Stellen ab und fokussiert sich neu Kommt die Wende bei Mozilla? Unter der neuen Chefin Laura Chambers startet Mozilla eine umfassende Reorganisation. Artikelveröffentlicht am 14. Februar 2024, 7:39 Uhr, Andreas Fischer Für Firefox könnten wieder neue Zeiten anbrechen. Für Firefox könnten wieder neue Zeiten anbrechen.(Bild: KI-generiert durch Bing Image Creator/Dall-E) Keine Woche nachdem die langjährige Mozilla-Chefin Mitchell Baker ihren Wechsel vom CEO-Posten auf den der Executive Chairwoman der Mozilla Foundation bekannt gegeben hat, baut das Unternehmen 60 weitere Stellen beziehungsweise etwa fünf Prozent der Belegschaft ab. 2020 verloren bereits 250 Mitarbeiter ihren Job bei dem Firefox-Anbieter. Der erneute Stellenabbau betrifft laut Bloomberg vor allem Mitarbeiter in der Produktentwicklung. Man wolle sich in Zukunft mehr auf Bereiche wie Firefox Mobile konzentrieren, in denen man die größten Erfolgschancen sehe, kündigte Mozilla an. Auf der anderen Seite werde man Investitionen in Produkte wie VPN, Relay sowie einen Dienst reduzieren, mit dem Anwender bei Datenbrokern über sie gespeicherte Daten löschen lassen können. Darüber hinaus will Mozilla seine 3D-Umgebung Hubs abschalten und weniger Aufwand bei seiner Mastodon-Instanz mozilla.social betreiben. ## KI und Firefox im Fokus Techcrunch veröffentlichte zudem ein internes Memorandum, in dem Mozilla ankündigte, sich künftig unter anderem mehr auf “vertrauenswürdige KI für Firefox” zu konzentrieren. Dazu werde man die Teams zusammenfassen, die sich bislang mit Pocket, Inhalten und KI beschäftigt hätten. Die Umstrukturierung erfolgt kurz nachdem das Unternehmen Laura Chambers zur Interims-CEO ernannt hatte. Die Australierin nannte als eine ihrer wichtigsten Aufgaben eigentlich die Suche nach einem neuen Chef für den Firefox-Anbieter und nicht eine Reorganisation. Die Änderungen deuten nach Ansicht von Techcrunch aber darauf hin, dass sich Mozilla wieder stärker auf sein Kernprodukt – den Browser Firefox – konzentrieren könnte. In der Vergangenheit brachte die Organisation zahlreiche neue Produkte heraus und vernachlässigte Firefox. Wohl auch deswegen verlor der früher sehr beliebte Browser immer mehr Marktanteile.
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# Firefox Maker Mozilla Is Cutting 60 Jobs After Naming New CEO By Mark Gurman February 13, 2024 at 7:16 PM UTC Mozilla Corp., the maker of web browser Firefox, is cutting about 60 jobs as part of a shake-up under a new chief executive officer. Mozilla said that the move affects about 5% of its workforce and that the cuts were primarily in the product development organization. The company informed employees of the decision on Tuesday. “We’re scaling back investment in some product areas in order to focus on areas that we feel have the greatest chance of success,” Mozilla said in a statement. “We intend to re-prioritize resources against products like Firefox Mobile, where there’s a significant opportunity to grow and establish a better model for the industry.” The move comes a week after the company named Laura Chambers as its CEO. She’s a former Airbnb Inc. and eBay Inc. executive who joined Mozilla’s board three years ago. Mitchell Baker, Mozilla’s longtime chief, stepped down to become the company’s executive chairman. Mozilla last cut a significant number of jobs four years ago at the height of the Covid-19 pandemic. The not-for-profit company, which competes with Alphabet Inc.’s Google Chrome, Apple Inc.’s Safari and Microsoft Corp.’s Edge, has been grappling with sliding market share of its Firefox web browser in recent years. In addition to Firefox, Mozilla’s products include email software Thunderbird and article-saving app Pocket. The move comes after a string of tech layoffs, with more than 32,000 jobs lost in the industry so far this year. Several major tech companies have made cuts in recent weeks, including Amazon.com Inc. and Snap Inc. — With assistance from Jackie Davalos
Kolanaki@yiffit.net 1 month ago
They have/had stuff for VR?
xenoclast@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Damn. I use relay a lot
ripcord@lemmy.world 1 month ago
But the VPN produces money…?
cabbage@piefed.social 1 month ago
The trolls in the comment section at least hints at the fact that creating a more positive and constructive online space proved more difficult than they imagined.
I was curious, and joined the queue for the closed beta a long time ago. Never heard back. They explored something new in closed channels, decided not to go for it, backed out. I don't really think they need to justify the decision.
Running a social media is a huge effort, and there's a lot of trolls out there actively targeting Mozilla. I imagine it's just more trouble than it's worth.
simple@lemm.ee 1 month ago
fast forward to them cutting costs on a Mastodon server that nobody uses
bannanaente@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Folks in that masto thread were being quite rude. Like it’s ok to be upset, but not nasty.
rglullis@communick.news 1 month ago
They shouldn’t be “running a social media”, they should be working on making their browser the best client for the Social Graph that is ActivityPub.