Probably better to post in the github issue rather than replying here.
Why not try it, then remove the feature if it turns out toxic?
Submitted 4 weeks ago by rimu@piefed.social to fediverse@lemmy.world
https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/4967
Probably better to post in the github issue rather than replying here.
Why not try it, then remove the feature if it turns out toxic?
Yes this should have been done already. Reddit it’s structured the way it is to better serve the manipulative intentions of the company behind it. Another useful thing would be to have votes on each user profile to flag bots easily. Bots are a threat to this platform, extreme transparency is one way to counter them the other is to add restrictions.
For my community ( !actual_discussion@lemmy.ca ) I would adore this. We get brigaded nearly every time we post a new thread on anything even remotely controversial so it would really help us filter out people who simply downvote and contribute nothing.
We also make it a rule to not downvote unless the user is not adding to the discussion, and that it is not a disagree button. People generally ignore this, however. It drives me nuts.
As long as it’s a Mod and Admin thing only, I would absolutely love it.
They say twitter shows public voting but I thought Musk just anonymized likes on twitter because it was getting transphobes in trouble?
There’s an easy solution. Dump and create new accounts every week or month or whatever fits your needs. Backup and move your data if you want (lemmy’s data import doesn’t work well with big data though).
Just like changing your password routinely increases your security, new online identity gives you privacy.
This is a lot of work for something that shouldn’t be problem with a voting system in the first place, like there is no point in voting if it’s not anonymous. I can see the reason that mods and admins should have to have it but it defeats the purpose of voting in the first place if it’s not anonymous, personally speaking if one should be fully open, up votes should be not Anonymous but down votes which are going to be the target of harassment should be anonymized
For this user base it is the right answer. So many petty downvoters. On my site I’m considering a rule that would make it so you can’t be the vote that casts a comment into the negative without giving a reason, and then that reason would be turned into a comment. If something is worth downvoting then it is worth explaining why someone is wrong. If you can’t do that maybe you shouldn’t downvote. I don’t think you should have to do that every time. But if a comment is going to go negative someone should step up to the plate and bother to articulate. That way a comment can’t get hidden away from the public just because a petty mob that can’t even present an argument sees it as convenient if certain information disappears.
So in that case the downvoter who crossed it into the negative would not be anonymous.
i think that will end up pushing discourse on your site towards negativity
I believe there is precedent for that. I’ve seen people from HexBear say that because their instance doesn’t have down votes they leave comments to criticize people. I get the appeal of wanting people to justify downvotes but this is a casual internet forum. Nobody is going to do that every single time. I’m more concerned it will lead to more simple negative comments like “this is stupid”.
Would be cool
Showing upvoters and removing downvotes completely!!
People downvote totally harmless posts and comments, just because they have a different opinion.
This useless and contraproductive negativity is the reason why YouTube removed downvotes and many other platforms never offered such a feature.
removing downvotes completely
This is already possible, just join an instance that has downvotes disabled. This has been an option for years. If you don’t want downvotes, just move to such an instance, there are plenty of them.
Thanks, did not know about this.
So, from a technical view…
There is a person who is mad about the fact that a different opinion might exist… That person clicks downvote in their app and it does not have any effect??
I can’t read Chinese, so I’m not sure what good seeing their names would be. A downvote is a downvote.
The people complaining about privacy have it fucked up imho.
Lemmy wasn’t built for privacy. It was built to combat censorship and they are not synonymous. Again, imo hiding any sort of public engagement or impressions is just more censorship.
To simplify my point, were all here to engage with one another, so unless your being an asshole or aren’t living up to your own values whatcha gotta hide?
Also, mass bot’ing of votes can critically stifle online discussion. Without visibility what course of action can one take to defend themselves aside from making unverified claims of manipulation.
Lmao, the dev instance is literally one of the most censored places on the internet.
I never said blocking people is an unreasonable option. That’s something you just made up so that you could give your little speech.
I’m pointing out that it’s very strange that when I bring up away this is going to obviously be abused pure knee-jerk reaction is to say ’ why didn’t you just block them’ as if it’s already happened.
Now to the matter at hand… What is the point of this? Why do users need this information? Every argument for it on the GitHub seems to only apply to things moderators need to know
Yes, absolutely. I am for pseudonyms but transparency. I would be very keen on having colors of the usernames to signify how old the username is. Also having a possibility to load block lists from files ( like github ) to allow sharing the block lists of the trolls
Didn’t kbin have a separate mechanism for supporting a post in a more public way? I can’t remember how that worked now, but it was in addition to the regular voting I think?
Kbin has upvote, downvote, and boost. Boost comes from the micrblogging side, kbin does both content aggregation like Lemmy and micrblogging like Mastodon. On the content aggregation side boost counts as 2 upvotes and it functions as normal for the micrblogging side. Kbin.social is the only Kbin instance I used, I expect that it works the same on other Kbin instances and on Mbin but I don’t know for sure.
It would be nice to be able to have a view that only tallies the votes from your local server, but IDK about listing all the individuals in an easily accessible manner.
What I really want though is a rolling deletion of my activity that’s older than 3-6 months. I understand there’s no way to erase these things entirely, especially from decentralized servers, but I do wish the internet could revert to being a little more ephemeral. You can also go look through public records and go back years in real life, but it’s not easy.
I think it should stay private
Doo ettt
dumblederp@aussie.zone 4 weeks ago
I think votes should be displayed publicly at the bottom of the comments section for each post. Make people stand by their convictions.