35 crypto companies got together to make a change dot org petition called “Bitcoin Deserves an Emoji”.
F that
Cryptocurrency is speedrunning ruining everything. We might as well have a laugh at the cryptobros’ expense in the meantime.
Bitcoin is Stupid and Does Not Deserve an Emoji (blog post)
Submitted 3 months ago by smallpatatas@lemm.ee to technology@lemmy.world
https://thedabbler.patatas.ca/pages/bitcoin-is-stupid.html
Comments
TootSweet@lemmy.world 3 months ago
mp3@lemmy.ca 3 months ago
I loved the concept at first, the idea of a decentralized currency all handled by encryption, and transactions permamently stored in a public ledger for all to see.
Then the cryptobros and the scammers caught wind of it and it’s all downhill from there.
shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 3 months ago
Scammers use the technology because it actually works and does what it says it does. And criminals and scammers and such are generally the first ones to adopt a new technology. Such as bank robbers adopting the automobile in order to get away faster.
TootSweet@lemmy.world 3 months ago
If you want the name of a payment techology that isn’t snake oil, isn’t blockchain-based, isn’t a cult, doesn’t claim to be a currency, doesn’t work on proof-of-work or proof-of-stake, but actually does provide certain privacy guarantees for your basic purchasing needs, is cryptographically secure, and can be used with only FOSS, I recommend looking into GNU Taler.
The only downside is that it’s not really supported anywhere at all yet. But I do hope it becomes a real thing some day.
Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Did they or did a bunch of media get pushed that told us all what these crypto bros were doing like shitting on beaches and taking our jobs.
LodeMike@lemmy.today 3 months ago
It already has a codepoint. ₿
glowie@h4x0r.host 3 months ago
Can’t believe I wasted brainspace reading that garbage
ConstantPain@lemmy.world 3 months ago
How is it to have nothing going on in your life so you create a petition about emojis?
smallpatatas@lemm.ee 3 months ago
Uh oh guys, we got a salty bag holder 😂
androogee@midwest.social 3 months ago
They edited their post about an hour after you replied.
pyrflie@lemm.ee 3 months ago
[deleted]UnfairUtan@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I couldn’t disagree more, emojis are amazing. They bring life to conversation, they help convey emotions, and they can be fun !
meliaesc@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Have you ever had an autism evaluation? Emojis are indispensable to convey context and mood to text.
rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 3 months ago
this dude don’t know what 🚶🏠⛈️🚗🚫 means 🤣
ruse8145@lemmy.sdf.org 3 months ago
Was someone on your lawn this morning?
dhork@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Maybe we don’t need a Bitcoin emoji, but we absolutely need a Doge enoji
driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 3 months ago
🐶 there’s already one
shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 3 months ago
Lol, doge
nublug@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 months ago
fighting for bitcoin to get an emoji is stupid, but fighting against it might be even stupider. surely there are more important things to spend your time and energy on. it’s a fucking emoji. who cares?
smallpatatas@lemm.ee 3 months ago
normalizing scams, by laundering their image via standards organizations, pollutes our communications environment. Both an emoji and a petition are symbolic - and our symbols are in fact important.
CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Bitcoin isn’t a scam. All non-bitcoin cryptocurrencies are scams.
People often hear about stuff like coins that are pre-mined, or proof-of-stake and the schemes and scans that come out of those, and immediately associate Bitcoin with the same thing.
ricecake@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
Bitcoin is stupid, but the point of Unicode is that we have a symbol for everything that has a commonly recognized symbol or representative value, or even uncommonly recognized.
If ⅌ gets a character, or all the symbols of the Byzantine musical notation system, I’m not sure why a typically recognized symbol for a cryptocurrency shouldn’t.
The weird bit is that they put together a petition. All you really need to do is submit a proposal and show that it’s a notable symbol and not owned by anyone in particular or a brand icon.
Here’s the proposal to add “goose” to Unicode. They even added a few joke-y bits, but they made a valid argument that “goose” is a symbol that people recognize. And now… 🪿
lunarul@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I don’t disagree with the overall comment, but there’s a difference between character and emoji. ⅌ got a character, but so did ₿ already.
ricecake@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
There really isn’t a difference between a character and an emoji beyond an emoji being a stylized rendering of a character, or a character whose use is intended as a pictograph.
www.unicode.org/reports/tr51/#Introduction
They’re all just Unicode code points, although I suppose there’s some distinction between the characters with more context specific meaning or the ones that are more apt to modification a la 🧑⚕️👩🏿⚕️. But you’ve also got 💲 and $, where “bold dollar sign” is often represented as green, but “dollar sign” tends to be represented in contextual style. Is ☣ a character or an emoji? What about the thousands of “other symbols” as defined by the Unicode spec which may or may not have special character renderings depending on your platform and font?
And yeah, I didn’t know that character existed, so now it’s doubly confusing why anyone is asking for anything. The symbol has meaning, and it’s in the big book of meaningful symbols. Not sure what more they want.
Atropos@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Lack of emojis and also having an emoji are both good for bitcoin.
shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 3 months ago
Bitcoin has the right idea, but did not execute it properly, primarily because it was the first and technology has improved and it has not. Monero is actually doing what bitcoin was meant to do and acting as a transactional currency, medium of exchange, and store of value.
cygnus@lemmy.ca 3 months ago
Look at my totally stable store of currency bro, trust me bro, this is totally useful as a means of exchange and you can trust in its future value bro, just believe me.
shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 3 months ago
Now, overlay that price chart with a transaction count chart averaged out over say 90 days and what you will notice is that big spike up to 400 and above was at basically no transaction volume which makes it seem more like that was hype. Looking at the price chart over shorter timeframes such as a year will show you that the transaction count is actually increasing now and the price is staying quite stable.
smallpatatas@lemm.ee 3 months ago
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again:
True bitcoiners 🤝 no-coiners “Bitcoin should be illegal”
cacheson@piefed.social 3 months ago
Monero will not scale. All attempts at "improved" altcoins have just sacrificed scalability in exchange for features that look good in the short term to investors that don't know any better.
shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 3 months ago
There are people dedicated specifically to Monero scaling and they are a hell of a lot smarter than me and do not see any reason why it cannot be scaled properly. Look at some talks by Articmine
LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 3 months ago
Woah way too many emojis already!
😀😃😄😁😆😅🤣😂🙂😉😊😇🥰😍🤩😘😗😚😙😏
androogee@midwest.social 3 months ago
There’s an emoji for nonbinary zombie🧟 There’s an emoji for "I can’t get my map to fold back up"🗺️ There’s even an emoji for a pregnant super Saiyan I think🫄🏼
But there’s no emoji for riding two giraffes at the same time, so hieroglyphics still wins 𓀬
P4ulin_Kbana@lemmy.eco.br 3 months ago
This message right here ⤴️
P4ulin_Kbana@lemmy.eco.br 3 months ago
This is the same thing as saying “there’s too many music!”, “there’s too many art!”
You can’t have enough emojis. Ever.
LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 3 months ago
You can’t have enough emojis. Ever.
Oh it’s on!
🍐 🍑 🍒 🍓 🍔 🍕 🍖 🍗 🍘 🍙 🍚 🍠 🍡 🍢 🍣 🍤 🍥 🍦 🍧 🍨 🍩 🍪 🍰 🍱 🍲 🍳 🍴 🍵 🍶 🍷 🍸 🍹 🍺 🎀 🎁 🎂 🎃 🎄 🎅 🎆 🎇 🎈 🎉 🎊 🎐 🎑 🎒 🎓 🎖️ 🎗️ 🎙️ 🎚️ 🎠 🎡 🎢 🎣 🎤 🎥 🎦 🎧 🎨 🎩 🎪 🎰 🎱 🎲 🎳 🎴 🎵 🎶 🎷 🎸 🎹 🎺 🏀 🏁 🏂 🏃 🏄 🏅 🏆 🏇 🏈 🏉 🏊 🏐 🏑 🏒 🏓 🏔️ 🏕️ 🏖️ 🏗️ 🏘️ 🏙️ 🏚️ 🏠 🏡 🏢 🏣 🏤 🏥 🏦 🏧 🏨 🏩 🏪 🏰 🏳️ 🏴 🏵️ 🏷️ 🏸 🏹 🏺 🐀 🐁 🐂 🐃 🐄 🐅 🐆 🐇 🐈 🐉 🐊 🐐 🐑 🐒 🐓 🐔 🐕 🐖 🐗 🐘 🐙 🐚 🐠 🐡 🐢 🐣 🐤 🐥 🐦 🐧 🐨 🐩 🐪
Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I think I should post a 1000 word essay about why I dislike the merman emoji.
sturmblast@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Fuck Emojis
alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 3 months ago
HappyTimeHarry@lemm.ee 3 months ago
₿uttcoin ((
hesusingthespiritbomb@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Does anyone remember when one of Maine’s US Senators lobbied Unicode to create a lobster emoji?
ruse8145@lemmy.sdf.org 3 months ago
That’s the majestic and ancient lobster, and having an emoji for such a fine creature makes sense.
This is Bitcoin
hesusingthespiritbomb@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Yeah I just think it’s funny a Senator took time out of his day to be like “we need a lobster emoji”
quinkin@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Should just be a generic crypto currency symbol with a rub being pulled from under it.
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 3 months ago
If we’re not getting an asshole emoji this will suffice.
Chozo@fedia.io 3 months ago
I don't mind there being an emoji for cryptocurrency. It's a relevant thing in modern society whether we like it or not, so there's no reason it should be excluded. But just not Bitcoin, specifically. Even though Bitcoin is the one that kicked off crypto, it's still a brand name, which would result in auto-rejection according to the Unicode Consortium's guidelines.
If there was a more general-purpose icon/symbol that could represent cryptocurrency in general, that'd be more appropriate. But it can't be Bitcoin.
borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 months ago
They already have that, 💩
WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I wouldn’t think Bitcoin has, or can, be trademarked or copyrighted, as it is an open-source protocol/technology where even the creator is unknown?
Either way there isn’t a generic symbol for cryptocurrency. This emoji will go the way of the save icon, where in a couple generations most people will have no idea what it relates to, but know that it’s a symbol for cryptos.
Chozo@fedia.io 3 months ago
It's still the name of a specific product/service. The issue is partly trademark/copyright, but also party a matter of neutrality. The Unicode Consortium want to ensure that they're not directly or indirectly endorsing any specific products. If they added a Bitcoin logo, then you'd see every other crypto lining up to get their logos permanently installed on every person's devices, too. Free advertising for life on 99.99% of phones would be hard to pass up.