Honestly, I’m not really excited about the past couple of major Nextcloud releases.
Mainly because there’s still one big issue for small-scale Nextcloud servers: performance.
Mainly the web UI is still too slow for me to properly use, which is why I don’t use it at all (unless I have to update an app).
It’s a bit disappointing that they’re mainly focused on the large enterprise customers instead of small hobbyists like me, but it’s still understandable; after all, their income is mainly from the enterprise customers, not from selfhosters.
I also don’t really like how they’ve jumped on the AI hypetrain instead of improving performance. But once again, I guess this generates more income for them than focusing on other things like improving performance.
ikidd@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Every fucking Nextcloud post is covered with people shitting on this opensource project that is hugely popular and works well for a lot of use cases.
If you don’t like and can’t get it working right, then don’t use it. But maybe keep your bitching to yourselves so the rest of us can discuss it.
Moonrise2473@feddit.it 6 months ago
Doesn’t help that every nextcloud official announcement promises the moon while delivering not even stardust.
Example: this blog post from two years ago: nextcloud.com/…/plan-your-next-trip-with-nextclou…
None of the features written in that post are available, even today
It’s something that it might be coming in a decade if someone is inspired by the mockups and codes it. When you install the maps plugin it shows a map of the world, and that’s it.
If they need to announce a concept that only exists as a mockup, either publish the news on April 1st or write “concept of how maps might integrate with nextcloud 50”
ikidd@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Well, every project ends up finding things that aren’t as easy as they may have thought, or chooses after the fact to devote the time to other things. I could cherry pick decade old features from every long-lived project, like KDE or Gnome and say that makes them worthless. They patently aren’t worthless, and anyone that wants to criticize is welcome to file a bug and follow through on the fix. Most bugs don’t get fixed because people won’t follow up.
I’m happy with where they’ve gone overall, it fits a lot of my needs that I’d have to use something like Google or Microsoft instead, so it’s annoying as shit to see every person that can’t be arsed to put in the time to get it working properly for the things it does well to shit on it every. goddamn. time. it’s. name. shows. up gets on my last nerve.
BlueBockser@programming.dev 6 months ago
I wouldn’t call criticism of their strategic focus “shitting on” Nextcloud. It obviously still does a lot of things right or at least right enough to be useful and relevant to many people, or else we wouldn’t be discussing it. But it has its issues and many of them have been unadressed for a long time, so why shouldn’t people voice their displeasure with that?
TMP_NKcYUEoM7kXg4qYe@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Nobody is stopping you from discussing it. So far your only contribution to the discussion was bitching about others bitching.
If we limit the discussion to the selfhosted realm, I agree with these people bitching. Nextcloud is too bloated and slow, while not providing many benefits over individual services. You would at least expect it feature ease of use over having individual apps but nope because when you install an update, there is high chance of breakage. End to end encryption has been losing people files for years. Which is imo a big deal in “private cloud”.
I guess my point is that the “bitching” is our discussion and you and people who upvoted your comment are free to join it and perhaps provide some examples of your Nextcloud setup and why you think it’s good. I’m sure most of us will be nice and won’t tell you to keep your comments to yourself.