Blaming tiktok for bad parental choices?
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jaschen@lemm.ee 6 months ago
This ban can’t come soon enough. Fuck the CCP.
K1nsey6@lemmy.world 6 months ago
GladiusB@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I’m not saying it’s a good parental choice. But the ban can help the kids.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
I doubt it, parents will just move them to YouTube or some other platform. The TikTok ban is intended to limit misinformation by the CCP, and that doesn’t really matter for this age of kids.
GladiusB@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I’m a parent. YouTube is watched but you can see what they are watching.
jaschen@lemm.ee 6 months ago
No blaming the CCP on psyops on Americans.
BruceTwarzen@kbin.social 6 months ago
Ah yes, that will solve the problem
jaschen@lemm.ee 6 months ago
Wait, is there another psyops software the CCP has deployed in the US?
BlueJayOakerson@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Probably plenty. Tik tok is just the biggest owned by a foreign government that also is showing pretty immediate extreme negative effects on children’s attention spans and learning capabilities.
But people are still gonna whine because they’re 25 year olds who need to watch 80 videos of unboxing shoes in 4 minutes . That’s really the only pro tik tok argument there is.
neo@lemmy.comfysnug.space 6 months ago
It sets a pretty chilling precedent that non-American competition can be forced to sell to Americans for (insert arbitrary reason here).
ChexMax@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I’m guessing you’ve never been on TikTok. It’s a pretty good news source and information disseminator. Your algorithm feeds you what you pick so if you linger on posts from physical therapists and psychologists about child development, that’s what you learn about. If you linger on political posts highlighting our local and federal government’s corruption, you get that.
I’m all for banning it (and all social media) for children, but if you think TikTok is all trash TV, you’ve been successfully propagandized.
jorp@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Only Western manipulation please!
jaschen@lemm.ee 6 months ago
It’s not in American businesses best interest overthrow a government. Can’t say the same for the CCP tho. Fuck the CCP.
jorp@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Lol I hope that’s a poor choice of words, maybe you MIGHT have a point if you specified the US government though even that isn’t true en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Plot
jaschen@lemm.ee 6 months ago
Wow, that is literally 1 example of an obscure time in the early 19th century.
A mass majority of an American has zero interest to hurt the community it is based in. The stability of a government and the strength of it’s community determines if people would buy/use a product. It also supplies a competent workforce and a network of security that helps a company prosper.
andros_rex@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I use TikTok routinely. I actually spend time on Chinese parts of TikTok, because I know a little Chinese. I’ve seen content that the CCP would be very much opposed to - including discussions of the Tank Man from Tiananmen Square and homosexuality in Chinese history.
TikTok has censorship certainly, but it’s more targeted towards the Gaza conflict.
jaschen@lemm.ee 6 months ago
I use TikTok routinely.
Your experience is different from other experience. That’s the main issue. They are and can target specific people in specific groups and in specific regions. You seeing this content just means you’re not important enough for them to target.
andros_rex@lemmy.world 6 months ago
As can/do Facebook and every other social media platform. But I find it hard to take this idea that TikTok is an arm of the CCP seriously when I routinely discuss Ughyur Muslims and Tiananmen square with folks, and see depictions of Chairman Mao as Pooh Bear.
The more shady shit is the shop and how every third video is an unlabeled ad. TikTok wants to make money first and foremost. I don’t think TikTok is some force for good in the world, but what they are doing is no different from what Meta and Google are doing.
jaschen@lemm.ee 6 months ago
Tiktok has one of the worse/non existent monetization programs. Its clearly not important to them how bad it is.
My extended family in Taiwan would routinely see fake news on Tiktok during the Taiwan elections.
That’s the thing. You don’t know. Nobody knows except the CCP. That’s the problem.
endhits@lemmy.world 6 months ago
“In my household, the only addictive spyware we use is made in the USA!!!”
Bonskreeskreeskree@lemmy.world 6 months ago
People love to repeat this, but US companies aren’t coming from a place of hostile intent like china’s special brand of tik tok for the states.
KrapKake@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I’m not so sure about that, they seem pretty hostile to customers and employees.
endhits@lemmy.world 6 months ago
They’re both focused on profit. The only reason you see the other one as scary is because it’s owned by the scary scary Chinese. Red scare all over again.
jaschen@lemm.ee 6 months ago
No tiktok is not focused on profit. It literally has one of the worst/non existent monetization systems.
Bonskreeskreeskree@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Why is Chinese tiktok different than that in the states then?
jumjummy@lemmy.world 6 months ago
You say “red scare” as if China isn’t a hostile nation state to the US. Go look at western company penetration in China if you want. Are you calling it “western scare” when China blocks yet another western company? I didn’t think so.
exanime@lemmy.today 6 months ago
So Facebook has the best interest of the people at heart?
www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/…/620767/
forbes.com/…/heres-how-instagram-harms-young-wome…
counterextremism.com/…/extremist-content-online-e…
jaschen@lemm.ee 6 months ago
Facebook is not intentionally doing it. It was a byproduct of capitalism. While TikTok doesn’t care about profits and only wants to control our government and people.
elleybirdy@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
Hmm, here’s what Zuckerberg said when he launched Facebook:
They may not be trying to control elections (they certainly have their fingers in that pie too), but they’re still hostile to users.
admin@lemmy.my-box.dev 6 months ago
Why would it matter whether or not it’s intentional, if the end effect is the same?
Bonskreeskreeskree@lemmy.world 6 months ago
It’s not the same. China wants to fuck up the American youth. That’s why their version of tiktok is so different from ours. But you already knew that I’m sure
ealoe@ani.social 6 months ago
Unironically yes, at least the US government is something we can openly criticize and attempt to change while living within its borders. Try criticizing the Chinese government from within China, let me know how that works out for you. I’ll take homegrown American spyware any day.