The only sad thing about this is that only one of them can lose the lawsuit.
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dojan@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Lmao. I’ve no love for Apple, and even less for Epic. It’s like two grotesquely unlovable toddlers are throwing a hissy fit in their little sandbox and I’m here for it.
Hubi@feddit.de 6 months ago
h3mlocke@lemm.ee 6 months ago
🤣
Cypher@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Ehhhh they could both throw endless millions at lawyers for no real result
ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 6 months ago
By their own quote of the law, there’s no wording that would stipulate that apple has to allow epic to have their third party app in apples app store. Just that they would have to essentially allow it to be side loaded, or installable in some way onto the phone.
But really, why should and app store have to foot the server bill for another company to get to install an app intended to make money while giving none to the company that owns and operates an app store?
I sure as hell wouldn’t.
GekkoState@lemmings.world 6 months ago
Did you read the article?
- Epic is not trying to get their 3rd party app in apples app store.
- Epic can’t create a 3rd party app store because Apple revoked their developer license. This means any app epic creates can’t be sideloaded because it will never be signed by apple.
- Apples new rules require any 3rd party app store to pay apple $0.50 per install (there is no million app install requirement for 3rd party app stores). So apple would still make money off epics app store if they allowed it.
casmael@lemm.ee 6 months ago
fight fight fight fight fight fight
stoly@lemmy.world 6 months ago
But there is a satisfying FAFO aspect to this.
Hadriscus@lemm.ee 6 months ago
fabulous amphibian feeling its organ ? fat alluring fungiform obelisk ?
stoly@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Fuck around and find out.
Basically a vulgar way to say that if you do something very stupid, don’t be surprised when something bad happens.
Land_Strider@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Very vulgar and tbh very beaten, redneck level childish expression mostly used overtly in bullshit reactions with almost zero regard to the context.
AA5B@lemmy.world 6 months ago
No kidding. As “that guy” who is siding with Apple on this …… seems like they’re playing with fire
stoly@lemmy.world 6 months ago
This might also be a LAMF moment.
tsonfeir@lemm.ee 6 months ago
Out of curiosity, what companies do you love?
ChillPill@lemmy.world 6 months ago
No company is your friend.
Aceticon@lemmy.world 6 months ago
It’s pretty silly to love a company: they’re not human and behave as a sociopath would.
To love a company (which is really just to love their brand) is just tbeing easilly influenced by marketing and having a tendency to simplify one’s view of the world down to labels to make it easier to mentally understand it - in consumer terms it means that when you’re making a purchase decision you can just take the mental shortcut in your decision of directly choosing the “loved” brand, rather than needing to evaluate products and their suitability for you to make an informed buying choice, which is cognitivelly more costly.
While “brand love” is understandable and not abnormal, it’s not a quality but rather it’s just a pretty flawed cognitive shortcut that goes against making informed choices, so expecting it from others is like expecting that everybody has some mild character flaw.
You do your thing - it’s your life and your money - just don’t think that others must share that reductive way of making purchasing decisions of yours.
tsonfeir@lemm.ee 6 months ago
Do my thing? What statement did you _ass_ume I was making by asking a question?
Aceticon@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Your question as formulated has the expectation that people must love some company.
From that I assumed that you yourself “love” one or more companies and hence use “love” for companies in your purchasing decisions.
My “do your thing” applies to you making purchasing decisions following “love” for companies. A different stating of the idea I was trying to pass in that sentence is: “You do your purchases guided by love for companies, just don’t think that others must share that same reductive way of making purchasing decisions.”
Bezier@suppo.fi 6 months ago
Probably none, but one can dislike some morr than others.
thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 6 months ago
Three’s
🎶 Come and knock on my door…🎶
The_wild_card@lemmy.today 6 months ago
No corpo
dojan@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I think that’s a fair question, but the answers you’ve gotten is accurate. I don’t really believe that there are any ”good” profit-driven companies.
Technically companies are just entities and don’t really have any morals assigned to them, good or bad, but they become bad when their increasing strive for profit ends up hurting people. These people could be their workers (like all AAA gaming companies), their customers, or some more or less unrelated third party (like soda companies ruining water sources).
Since the pandemic, landlord companies in my country have gotten incredibly greedy. They got a sudden massive cash infusion by increasing rents by an absurd amount, so each year since they’ve been asking for equally absurd amounts. Their CEOs are pocketing extreme sums, and then moan about how they don’t get enough money to keep the company afloat.
They’re trying to circumvent decades of precedence in how rent negotiations work, and it’s threatening the living situation for millions of people. It’s just evil.
tsonfeir@lemm.ee 6 months ago
The question was misinterpreted by all as a statement.
GBU_28@lemm.ee 6 months ago
A company? None. Black diamond’s products I own? I love their products like close friends
GBU_28@lemm.ee 6 months ago
oh shit that one is eating a whole lotta sand
Buffalox@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Yes, it’s kind of funny with Epic complaining about fairness, when they arrange exclusivity agreements for their own game store. 🤪 And they actively sabotage it working on Linux.🤔
deweydecibel@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Regardless if the irony, someone needed to start this fight with Apple, so it might as well be them.
Between the two of them, I’m not willing to “support” either, but Epic is slightly more agreeable because they’re not also in a hardware dominance position. Epic can be as shitty as it likes about certain platforms, but they at least can only affect their games. They aren’t gatekeepers to an massive audience of users.
Between an abusive developer and an abusive gatekeeper, the gatekeeper is the bigger issue.
Buffalox@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Absolutely.
Cethin@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
Ok, I really don’t get Epic hate. Sure, they’re using shitty practices to attempt to compete with the megolith Valve is, and it sucks. However, how are they sabotaging it working on Linux. They made Easy Anti-cheat work on Linux, which is huge, and also UE5 seems to run better on Linux than Windows by most accounts I’ve heard, including my own experience.
Make reasonable complaints all day, but sabotaging Linux compatability is not something they’re doing.
Giooschi@lemmy.world 6 months ago
For example they discontinued support for Rocket League on Linux (and Mac) after buying Psyonix.
Cethin@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
It’s got a platinum rating on ProtonDB. It looks like the native versions are being supported anymore, but they still work. I don’t blame them. The game has gotten a lot smaller over the years and I’m certain there’s very few Linux players on it. Regardless, the Windows application seems to work perfectly fine for Linux users. Yeah, native is ideal but it costs extra money to maintain two (or three) versions.
Anyway, you can’t say they’re sabotaging Linux support when they also purchased EAC and had them add Linux support. They may not be perfect with Linux, but they aren’t sabotaging it.
TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Meanwhile GOG attempts to compete by offering features that other platforms don’t offer, like DRM-free installers and a multi-platform game launcher.
If Epic got to #1 place, what guarantees there are that they would stop using exclusivity deals to hinder their own competitors? It might just be that we end up with a more anti-competititve market leader, and then what would be the benefit of having overtaken Steam?
Cethin@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
I like GoG. They don’t hold any control over the market though. I wish they did, but they aren’t competing.
Chocrates@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Tim Sweeney is pretty openly against any Linux support for some reason so I think that soured Linux gamers against them.
I have been gaming on Linux for 15 years and it is so much better these days, but we are still not a 1st party target. I get why, but it sucks to be ignored and told to just deal with it forever. I spend as much or more on hardware and software than windows gamers (except for a Windows license I suppose) and I guess I have to vote with my wallet.
redcalcium@lemmy.institute 6 months ago
Epic (the game engine and middleware developer) and Epic Store (the one that sells games) seems to have different priorities. Customers of Epic game engines and middlewares want linux supports, so they provides it. Meanwhile, Epic Store don’t want the burden of maintaining linux ports for their games.