What I’ve noticed is it became way more toxic over there since the API changes
I still scurry over occasionally (a lot of communities didn’t move over) but not nearly as much as I used to
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gedaliyah@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Well shucks, all they did was drive out their most active content makers and cut themselves off from hundreds of thousands of dollars in free moderation labor. Who could possibly have seen this coming?
Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 months ago
gedaliyah@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Same. It runs so badly now, and enough moderators left or cut back that it is not the same site it was at all. Some communities are still intact, but I’ve begun to see lemmy and even Mastodon results in searches alongside reddit. It’s going to take a while to see if reddit can recover (it’ll take some humility and leadership from the top which seems unlikely) or die slowly then all at once. Remember digg, etc? The internet is fickle and for every Facebook there are a hundred friendsters.
stackPeek@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Ironically way more bot now
psud@lemmy.world 10 months ago
The only sub I still go there for is /r/zerocarb (a low carb diet sub), and that’s now mostly deleted comments and posts. With the moderation tools unavailable on mobile the mods have made automod very strict. Heaven help a person new to the diet, they’ll have a hard time asking their questions
sirboozebum@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I still occasionally browse the smaller subs when I need help on things like /r/unraid.
AtariDump@lemmy.world 10 months ago
kratoz29@lemm.ee 10 months ago
This became an instant classic lol, do we know who the artist is?
eek2121@lemmy.world 10 months ago
That was one of the reasons they killed the api: to support ad growth. Unfortunately they failed to realize the combination of ad-blocking browsers and users just quitting the site from losing client access means they were never going to hit pre-IPO revenue targets.
Had they instead focused on affordable API pricing and driving subscriber revenues up, they would have exceeded revenue targets.
source: I was in a somewhat similar position (not quite the same, no third party client), but chose different and found myself making more subscription revenue than ad revenue thanks to a viewer base more than happy to pay more.
mrks@programming.dev 10 months ago
Do you have any data to support that? My feeling is that not much changed after that. I feel like there is business as usual there. At least when I talk to my peers.
psud@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Subs I followed (and still rarely visit) became much harsher with moderation, to the point of being very difficult for new visitors to use; in a sub that is mostly for helping people adopt a very low carb diet
pachrist@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I feel like this was definitely the case in small subs where the main content generators were also mods. The ones who didn’t straight up leave became uncommitted. Places like Askreddit didn’t change, but smaller communities are pretty dead.
psud@lemmy.world 10 months ago
So much looks as deleted as /r/legaladvice was (is?) now
gedaliyah@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Some communities were unaffected. Some are still shut down. Some replaced mods who wouldn’t play by spez’s rules.
I’m not sure what the data would look like or how one would obtain it. Number of active moderators per day? Moderator satisfaction survey? Change in posting habits of top 1% posters?
I am speaking purely anecdotally from communities I know that shut down entirely and moderators who left. I have no way to estimate the scale of the exodus.
ripcord@kbin.social 10 months ago
Don't be fooled. Most went back.
Nerii@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I was active nearly every day for 13 years, I didn’t. Granted, I don’t come here much either, but what Reddit did disgusted me too much.
mp3@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
My reddit account is 15 years old. I removed myself as a mod from the communities I took care of before signing out.
If they want to shit on the mods, they can handle the job themselves.
db2@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I was transitioning out, but it just felt disgusting to even open the site so I stopped doing it. I probably have a bunch of unread messages because of that.
deweydecibel@lemmy.world 10 months ago
As 10+ year vet, I still go back for certain things. Mostly communities that have not been recreated here yet in any meaningful sense, and there are a lot of those. There are people here, yes, but the niches, the non-general topics, are lacking a true community. That will come with time, but I still can’t substitute Lemmy for reddit 100% yet, much as I might want to. Unless I only want to talk technology, news, and politics all day.
But I will say Boost for Lemmy has taken the spot RIF once had on my mobile home screen. Lemmy is what I open reflexively now. I only go back to reddit when I need to see something specific, I’m not browsing there. Partially because it’s very, very tedious to navigate old.reddit on mobile, but partially because I just don’t want to spend too much time there anymore.
psud@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I had a reply to a four year ago comment I made. Up until that moment I had thought everything was archived.
laverabe@lemmy.world 10 months ago
same here, since 2008. Pretty much every user of the site was on the same standard default subreddits. I don’t like what Reddit has become but I don’t blame them like a lot of people here.
Honestly they were a corporation from the get-go, out to make money once it became popular. They built something no one else did.
But going forward, the little reddit escapade from their corporate suite shows that freedom of speech can only thrive when there is no driving profit motive.
prole@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
They weren’t a corporation from the get-go though? They were a Y-Combonator project that became successful, and were eventually bought by Conde Nast.
CmdrShepard42@lemm.ee 10 months ago
Same except I was at about 10 years. I don’t even find it useful to include “reddit” in my Google searches as many communities are locked down unless you sign in to an account. Can’t say I feel too bad for them.
HawlSera@lemm.ee 10 months ago
I didn’t return either… to be fair, it’s because I was one of the ones who got a bullshit permaban
Pips@lemmy.sdf.org 10 months ago
Did they? I had one of the top non-porn accounts actually run by a person (most high karma accounts use bots, I didn’t out of ironic laziness) and I haven’t posted or commented since whenever Day 0 was for rif is fun. I’ve been back a couple times for very specific things but not logged in or participating in any active way. Of course, I’m just one (high karma) data point, but I really don’t think I’m unique in this. I also have no real desire to contribute to Reddit again in the future. Getting off of it has been pretty nice.
Look, it’s not that people aren’t still posting, the site obviously still has content, but it really is just “content.” The quality of discussion I’ve seen has gone down pretty steep. I think a lot of contributors who treated Reddit like old school forums have left and it’s slowly turning into a weird combo of Facebook and 4chan if that makes sense. If that’s what the userbase wants, go for it, I guess. But that’s not my jam.
9715698@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Why not delete the account ?
Pips@lemmy.sdf.org 10 months ago
My old one? I’ve thought about it. I have a lot of inanity on there but some (I think) decent replies to people trying to be “reasonable” fascists, racists, misogynists, etc. if that makes sense. I’ll admit I mostly posted news articles I thought were interesting, though I would regularly participate in the discussions for those articles, but those articles frequently got a lot of traffic. So I guess there’s two problems with nuking the account:
(1) If I delete all my comments, you end up in some cases with what looks like someone deleting their response to a bad actor, leaving that bad actor not only unchallenged, but looking like they “won” the argument, and
(2) If I delete all my posts, I remove from public view the comments of (at this point) likely tens of thousands of people, if not more given how many high karma and high participation posts I submitted, many of whom might not have wanted me to do so.
I have so many of both that it’d be a massive pain to go through and selectively delete stuff. Easier to just leave the account be and never use it again. Deleting the account just means it’s anonymized, which can also invite bad faith.
WHYAREWEALLCAPS@kbin.social 10 months ago
A lot of search results still take me to Reddit. It is still a source of knowledge.
kamenlady@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I tell myself that landing on Reddit, because of a search result is different than logging in on Reddit and subsequently browsing Reddit.
Using their app is on another level.
Pips@lemmy.sdf.org 10 months ago
It is, there’s a lot of highly specific knowledge on Reddit. It’s still a resource.
Promethiel@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I’ll be honest. I want to believe in the Fediverse and Lemmy, really really hard.
It’s ideals (rather, the gestalt of the best of what everyone says is the best of Federation) appeals strongly.
But sometimes, it’s instance after instance of complaining about this or that. Double points when it’s all reddit complaining.
I dunno if being a heavy content creator necessitates an air of misguided superiority but there’s no more nuance here than anywhere else, and the content can’t seem to form precisely because everyone decides to take their toys away and do their own thing at the smallest provocation.
I don’t use them on my phone because fuck their app, but I’ve found no choice but to join up with an alias and as much extensions to make their job harder as Firefox allows, just to have genuine discussions on hyper specific topics from a PC.
prole@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
Really? No choice?
Take control of your life, goddamn.
stevehobbes@lemy.lol 10 months ago
As much as I hate to admit it, I’m considering it too - not instead, but also. I haven’t been back since Apollo died but Lemmy just doesn’t have the diversity of interests and niche communities yet. It feels really one dimensional sometimes.
ripcord@kbin.social 10 months ago
I'm not. Pretty happy here overall.
stevehobbes@lemy.lol 10 months ago
Sometimes I want to see things besides hard left politics, Linux and furries. And a huge helping of divorced-from-reality beyond-left opinions from .ml and whatever hexbear is.
And I know I can block all those communities, but you’re not left with a ton once you do. Those demographics are dramatically over represented on lemmy.
oce@jlai.lu 10 months ago
For me the main issue is that my professional community is pretty active there but not here. So if I want to share some professional work and discussion, I can only go there.
TheDeepState@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Yeah. Lemmy really isn’t as good as Reddit. You run into people on Lemmy who will ban you just because you disagree with their echo chamber. Also, there isn’t as much content.
lustyargonian@lemm.ee 10 months ago
But after cementing lemmy as a viable alternative. I actually find fun content on lemmy. Reddit feed for me ends up turning into a left vs right garbage.
original_reader@lemm.ee 10 months ago
What’s your basis for this statement? Any evidence to back it up?
nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 10 months ago
I go back for a couple nice communities that haven’t escaped yet. And occasional search results for advice, but that tends to be 3-5+ years old on average.
andxz@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Will never happen.
ripcord@kbin.social 10 months ago
?
andxz@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Me, going back to that cesspool. I left quite the account behind as well.